Pretty much what the headline says^^
There are a few discussions about men engaging in or liking combat sports (like boxing, MMA etc.) being cause for concern here and I am curious how you would view other sports.
You'd think that disciplines that rely on cooperation instead of one-on-one confrontation would be better, but I have also experienced that many team sports come with a "pack" and "locker room" mentality that can be extremely toxic and misogynistic (especially soccer, football, rugby and the likes).
On the other hand there are sports like tennis, fencing (I wouldn't consider this a combat sport even if it evolved from that), skiing, surfing, climbing, horseback riding, golf, yoga/tai chi etc. that fall into neither category but that are often connected to a certain lifestyle and other, more solitary sports like swimming, archery, running marathons, weight lifting...
I'd exclude "sports" like chess, darts and "competitive" video gaming here because they are not really physical.
What sports would you consider red flags or green flags if he engages in them or is a huge fan? Are there any that would be automatic dealbreakers for you?
If FDS generally posits that men just inherently have aggressive energy then aggressive sports seem like a good outlet for that. So I personally wouldn't consider them a red flag, unless the particular team he's on seems to come with a bad locker room mentality. Like I'd rather a guy in an MMA group with a good sportsmanlike culture than a guy on a track team with a misogynistic locker room.
Some of the "safer" ones like yoga I'd probably be more wary about because all the guys I've met who are into yoga think they're SoOoOo enlightened and SoOOoOo progressive and just want to get women.
Also if you vet them otherwise and a guy knows fighting skills and/or how to channel his aggressive energy, he might actually be able to protect you from other men. (Eg my boyfriend has great emotional regulation, I've always felt safe with him, but he can turn it on when it's necessary, and has to protect a few women in his family.)
(Edit to add I'm talking about doing those things. Not being super fans and thinking getting worked up about other guys playing sports makes them mucho.)
I'd definitely avoid ski and surf bums! (Especially the ones who are also 'instructors'!)
I think anyone being obsessed with any kind of sport is a red flag. I mean obsessed in the sense they will not miss a game or plan their whole life around it. No thank you.
Watching games here and there in a way that doesn’t impact their life or their families don’t bother me. However, I don’t Ike soccer or golf 🤣
I'm a vegan so horseback riding is off limits for me, and obviously hunting and fishing. With combat sports, it really depends on his reasons and his overall demeanor, like with regular gym goers. Is he on a power trip and focused on gaining mass for vanity or does he genuinely like the sport? Does he raise an eyebrow at “girly” sports or does he respect them (without inserting himself into women's spaces of course)? Does he train at a testosterone filled bro gym? Is the sport highly competitive and comes with frequent injuries? Is he focused on impressing and seducing women (something to look out for in dance and yoga instructors)? In the end, it all comes down to context. I personally like a man who is focused on functional fitness, aka just wants to have an injury-free and capable body for years to come, and actually uses his fitness for stuff like hiking or DIY around the house.
Off topic: that use of “^^” gave me nostalgia 😂 (or rather, xD)
Hockey, martial arts, boxing, and e-sports (yeah it’s a sports, I can’t believe it either 🥴) are red flags.
I’d even add nascar, and monster truck/bike sports, and skateboarding/roller blades anything with Tony Hawk’s face are also red flags.
I'd even include squash for my area because there's men's league but no women's club, and that it was created for men.
Basketball is also a sport that is exclusionary. Too many times have I seen girls get dolled up to go on basketball dates with their bf only to be reduced to cheering from the bleachers. It's quite hilarious. There's like a bunch of girls dressed 10/10 with perfect makeup and cute outfits and they're all sitting on the bleachers for hours on end while the bf show up in sweats and hangout with the boys.
Some sports I consider to be green flags are badminton, tennis, pickle ball, golf, kayaking, canoeing, rock climbing, and hiking.
The men I’ve met who play hockey tend to be red flags, and the men I’ve met through gymnastics classes have been on the better side but can’t say if it’s an automatic “green flag”. Gymnastics is also a way more positive sport in my experience, where everyone cheers each other on a lot and it just takes so much discipline and practice to excel at.
I would consider it a green flag if somebody keeps up consistently with a sport that is not associated with toxic masculinity. Or somebody involved (participates or volunteers) with para sport groups. Depends on where you are, a lot of even pro sports are run by volunteers (umpires, judges, coaches, etc).
In some countries tennis is considered a class signifier, so aspiring parents sign up kids for it.
Similarly golf has PR as something rich people do. Every time I see Asian guy flaunting golf pics on online dating I can't help but laugh. It's not a conspicuous consumption you think it is, you just aged yourself by 40 years.
Green flags: only sports that I'm into myself. I can't think of anything other than swimming or cross-country skiing/ snowshoeing that I would consider a green flag.
Bodybuilding is a red flag.
There's a cluster of academia that are into rock climbing. All the outdoor sports require weekends, so unless you are into them yourself, they would be a dealbreaker.
Curling is maybe a yellow flag.
Some curlers are more interested in the social (read: drinking) aspects of curling, so red flag. The old dudes sometimes get nolstalgic for the days when women were excluded from curling clubs, so stay away from old dude curlers and stay away from guys who have a strong preference for curling with other men instead of mixed teams. Curling shouldnt be aggressive, but some of the old misogynist types and the bro-y types make it aggressive.
Otherwise, curling is very oriented toward team cooperation and etiquette. These charming aspects weed out dirt bags. Curlers are not dirt bags.