An except from the book, The Gift of Fear, by Gavin de Becker, that helped me understand that a man ignoring your "no" is not "persistence" but rather disrespect for your boundaries and a signal of potential danger. If you say no clearly to something he asks for, however seemingly small, and he asks again, sulks, or attempts to change your mind, you are dealing with someone who does not respect you and wishes to control you.
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TW: mention of rape
Discounting the Word “No”
It is late, and I suggest to Kelly that we’ll discuss the rest tomorrow, but she wants another signal before we stop. Like every victim of a truly awful crime, she is anxious to make some sense of it, to understand it, to control it.
So I speak to her about one more signal, perhaps the most universally significant one of all: a man’s ignoring or discounting the concept of no. Kelly’s rapist ignored it several times, in various forms. First she said no, she didn’t want his help. Then she showed him no when she didn’t immediately let go of the bag. Actions are far more eloquent and credible than words, particularly a short and under-valued word like “no,” and particularly when it’s offered tentatively or without conviction.
So when Kelly said no but then agreed, it wasn’t really no anymore. “No” is a word that must never be negotiated, because the person who chooses not to hear it is trying to control you. In situations in which unsolicited offers of assistance are appropriate, such as approaches by a salesman or flight attendant, it is simply annoying if you have to decline three times.
With a stranger, however, refusal to hear no can be an important survival signal, as with a suitor, a friend, a boyfriend, even a husband. Declining to hear “no” is a signal that someone is either seeking control or refusing to relinquish it. With strangers, even those with the best intentions, never, ever relent on the issue of “no,” because it sets the stage for more efforts to control. If you let someone talk you out of the word “no,” you might as well wear a sign that reads, “You are in charge.” The worst response when someone fails to accept “no” is to give ever-weakening refusals and then give in.
Another common response that serves the criminal is to negotiate (“I really appreciate your offer, but let me try to do it on my own first”). Negotiations are about possibilities, and providing access to someone who makes you apprehensive is not a possibility you want to keep on the agenda. I encourage people to remember that “no” is a complete sentence. The criminal’s process of victim selection, which I call “the interview,” is similar to a shark’s circling potential prey. The predatory criminal of every variety is looking for someone, a vulnerable someone who will allow him to be in control, and just as he constantly gives signals, so does he read them.
This book is seriously life saving
I used to think I needed a reason for my no, then I realized "no, I don't want to" takes care of all of that, and satisfies my need to have a reason for refusing. *It helped me a lot when I was recovering from people pleasing
I run a meetup group for Gen X'ers, andi had to remove two men because of their refusal to respect my NOs. My group is not a dating group. I have every member respond to the question, "Do you understand that this is not a dating group? Do not make anyone uncomfortable with unwanted advances." Every man has responded YES, they understand its not a dating group. I knew it wpuld happen but i didn't expect it to happen right away with the very first men i meet. From the very first event, these 2 men have been disregarding that left and right. The first guy asked me out for drinks immediately after meeting me. I reminded him that he said yes, to understanding this isn't a dating group, so I'd have to remove him. 2nd guy was more subtle. It took 3 times of him violating my boundaries before I banned him, today in fact. He would use anything I said to try to guy close to me. At the first event, Friendsgiving, I mentioned I loved cranberry sauce year round, and next day there's a DM telling me he wanted to bring me fresh cranberries to make fresh cranberry sauce. Uuumm K. I let that slide. 2nd event, I had screenshoted the first guys drink date invitation and showed him (the 2nd guy) and told the story of how I had to remove him because he couldn't respect my boundaries, and how upset I was about it. His response? The following day I get a 2nd DM asking me out to play baseball (I had mentioned that I prefer playing sports over watching sports) then he asked me to go Christmas shopping with him! The audacity to ask me out after reading the messages from the first guy, and now hearing me TWICE say that this is not a dating group, and I am not dating at this time, his response was to ask me out! Then today I get a DM about wanting to go to a Broadway play. Finally I had enough and told how fucked up he is for completely disregarding and disrespecting my VERY clear boundaries and that's he is now banned. Like wtf!!! This is the first time in my life that I have not only had boundaries but am finally enforcing them and I can't believe the audacity, right away from the very first event, how these 2 men just trampled all over my boundaries!