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Scrote rapes woman and then claims to be falsely accused

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Shit like this is why you should always be wary of scrotes who claim to be falsely accused of rape. He is most likely guilty as hell

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erythrura

Jan 18

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Let's play a game: How many clear no-signals do you count in the story that he ignored? I'll start:

She didn't seem enthusiastic when she first arrived but nervous and contemplated leaving (fiddling with her phone). Probably has something to do with not being greeted by one man - as she expected - but by a whole group of male roommates which is fucking scary.
She says she needs to leave when the movie starts, he pressures her to stay because of her "promise"
When he makes out with her without getting her consent first she is "not enthusiastic", but he continues anyway
She takes her phone and wants to leave but he takes it away from her and then has sex with her, again without getting her consent first
After sex, she flees from his apartment while he is taking a shower and goes straight to the police.

That's at least five pretty clear nos from her that he ignored. And her saying "I'm okay" and not actively fighting him is either a lie by him or her being scared and trying not to provoke him further or her dissociating/freezing which is a pretty common reaction to a threat. Plus: at least on my planet "I'm okay" is not the remotely same as "I want sex with you". So even if she said it, it was not consent to sex in any way.

Sure he is not a rapist and that was a complete misunderstanding, right?

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Unknown member

Jan 18

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Exactly. The first time I was raped, I froze. I stayed still and kept very quiet.

Later, when I confronted my rapist about the rape, he yelled, "You didn't say no or fight me off! Don't ever go around accusing me of rape."

This happened 20 years ago, and I doubt the police would have considered it rape. Affirmative consent wasn't a thing back then.

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erythrura

Jan 18

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I'm so sorry this happened to you.

I'm also someone who froze in a scary situation before and that's absolutely what she did in that story. It was a car crash for me and I remember sitting behind the wheel totally numb and frozen and saying "I'm okay" again and again to the people who tried to help me. I obviously wasn't okay. I was hurt and in shock and full of adrenaline.

The fact that this woman took the first opportunity to flee and ran straight to the police also proves that she clearly experienced the situation as rape right from the start. This is not a case of her realizing/deciding it was actually rape or regretting it days later after she has thought about it more (which would still be valid).

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Tiki cat

Jan 18

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Ok Im betting when he said she seemed fine she wasn’t. I honestly felt obligated to act and keep going even though I didn’t want to many times.

Unknown member

Jan 18

If a woman does not consent enthusiastically, then she is not consenting. Full stop.

Even if a woman "consents enthusiastically" from the man's perspective, he should still be skeptical. Visible "consent" from a woman is often coerced/enforced/misinterpreted.

This is why a man should know a woman well before trying to have sex with her instead of going around sticking his dick in strangers.

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Baby_Royalty

Jan 18

The term falsely accused doesn't mean anything.. Anyone who is guilty of rape would say they are falsely accused.

Statistically, saying "falsely accused" makes it MORE likely that he is a rapist. Since 100% of rapists say this term but just a tiny, tiny, tiny subset of normal men. + False rape accusations are extremely rare, rarer than false accusations about other crimes.

Unknown member

Jan 18

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Exactly! Statistically such a tiny portion of men are falsely accused of rape that men have no reason to fear this. Any man who expresses concern about being "falsely accused of rape" is telling on himself. The only men who fear being accused of rape are rapists. For this reason, if a man ever talks about "false accusations of rape", you should run!

P.S. The man who posted above is totally a rapist. That post is FULL of red flags, especially the blood in the woman's underwear and the fact that she ran away afterwards.

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Jessica_Vanilla

Jan 18

"Sex happens." See how he went into a bunch of detail about what happened before the sex but he doesn't go into detail about the sex act? I bet you anything he glossed over it because there is something there that makes him look bad.

Regardless, what is the more logical answer: This woman planned to come over, have sex with you, and then immediately flee so fast that she didn't even put her underwear on and ran to your neighbors to call the police on you because she gets her kicks out of sending men to prison?

Or this woman felt coerced into having sex with you because of a "promise" and then ran out the door the first chance she was free from you. C'mon now.

Unknown member

Jan 20

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The fact that she forgot to put on her underwear in the process of running out speaks volumes. She wanted to get out of there FAST.

That's the most telling detail for me.

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Unknown member

Jan 20

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Exactly!

flamelink7

Jan 20

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Keep in mind that this version is downplayed by him trying to paint himself in the best possible light. I bet what happened is a whole lot worse.

db009

Jan 18

Unrelated, but the men in my office were recently discussing the importance of consent. I was really pleased that men are finally starting to take this seriously, until I realised that not one of them were concerned for the woman's comfort or welfare.

*All* of them (educated middle class men in their mid-30s) were *only* concerned that they were taking the appropriate steps so they couldn't be falsely accused afterwards.

I explained that consent could be withdrawn at any time (none of them had even thought of this) and then told them "if it's not a hell yes, then it's a hell no" and they all pretended to understand, but I could tell it was an alien concept.

Back to OP - I would love to hear the woman's side of this story. I think the guy is guilty too. Agree with previous PP that no woman would have blood on her underwear for a hookup.

Unknown member

Jan 18

She DID say no. :)

hamburgerfries

Jan 18

I hope he gets prosecuted to the fullest extent.

Unknown member

Jan 18

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The sad part is the majority of Western men think this way. Their line of reasoning is that if a woman voluntarily came over and didn't say no or struggle during sex, then the sex was consensual, and everything is hunky-dory.

This is how most men (even the progressive, educated ones living in first-world countries) think, and you literally cannot convince them to think any other way. The level of misogynistic programming is unreal.

Edit: Actually, most non-Western men think this way too.

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BoxMile

Jan 18

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These scrotes KNOW what rape is, they just wanna act dumb so they can avoid accountability and gaslight you in the process. If a man were to be sexually assaulted or cat called or even touched inappropriately by another man they would immediately flip the fuck out. They know! They just wanna act ignorant and bank on your own ignorance of what they know.

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Apple

Jan 18

He most likely wouldn’t stop

flamelink7

Jan 20

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He'd probably take a "no" as "playing hard to get" and just flat out ignore it

Scrote rapes woman and then claims to be falsely accused

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