I really feel sorry for this woman. Her situation makes being single for life so desirable. He could only find her birth date for his bachelor party substitute and what she did is what is pretty unacceptable? This would have never happened if she had a platonic female life partner. Idk why he acts like it's completely out of his hands to have his golf party on her birthday and he is just at the mercy of whoever is doing the planning, meanwhile her and her birthday are at the mercy of his prioritization of her.
Throughout the relationship he will abandon her at important times. Chasing the male bonding he never had. Will he abandon her when she's throwing up all day and night with morning sickness next? Because he got invited to a bachelor party and it's the second time he saw an opportunity for a male bonding experience since their engagement period!
I feel like it would be 1000x times more socially unacceptable for female bestfriends to leave one another at home and miss a birthday because that was the only day she could experience "finally having their own friends"
The men in this guy's comment section are blatantly saying that even if they had close friendships and family connection, they will still feel lonely until they have romantic connection. And it's allllll women's fault! It's alll how they made it soooo hard for them because our standards are tooooo highhhhh!!!!!
Some girl that was doing emotional labour for them (who was getting shit and aggression thrown at her), asked them to specify these high standards. "Welllll, women never, ever ask guys out. We have to ask them out!!! Even if they really like the guy, they wont ask him out! Therefore, they will never experience rejection, so unfair!"
I think what he's struggling to understand is even if more women experience rejection, men would still experience the same amount of rejection. No one will say yes to them more because they know what rejection feels like. Adding rejection on top of the fact that single women are happier doesn't help things.
Also, I'm supposed to give my unconditional emotional labour to people that would like to see me get rejected and told no and hurt because it feels good to see me suffer like they suffered? That's the romantic connection women are supposed to give a crap about?
Imagine, you're a woman. You worked hard to find your happiness in life. You feel happy and content as a single woman. But everyone is acting like the world is being set on fire because some dude isn't getting the romantic connection that is his goddamn, god-given birthright.
This is why the lesson I took from this comment section is: the rise in male loneliness is tied to the rise in female happiness.
Why
Single, childless women are the happiest demographic in the world. But historically, before today, it was very rare to be a single and childfree women. Women didn't have the guts to be ostracized by society
These men who crave romantic connection don't understand that for most women, everytime we observe our married girlfriends and see how their husbands treat them (walking past toys on the floor, kicking them out of the way, while their wife follows behind them picking all the toys up), our desire for single-hood gets rejuvenated.
As more women go on a journey to discover self-love, to enjoy their own company, to focus on hobbies and female friendships, we won't to return to romantic relationships with weaponized incompetence, where even not making our birthday the one day you seek male-bonding is too unacceptable.
It's my view that women like the wife in the screenshot are seeking marriage to fulfill a societal expectation. To fulfill what princess stories told her to do. A victom of romantic marketing and romantic grooming (see how romantic this ordeal she fell into actually is).
Not because she believes she will be less lonely if she takes this path. Sacrificing your female friendships to spend time with a dull husband who considers you a low enough priority that he will jump at missing your birthday to go have a fun boys day.
Men don't realize that the romantic connection they so need with people they have no actual interest in (outside of sex) an feel zero compassion for, are relationships that will make women permanently more lonely (1 level up), less happy to the point our lives are shorter.
Listen to older married women talk about how they they were never so lonely, until they got married and experienced how much they could be devalued.
'I'm actually working on starting a mens' group'. It's not like every group out there for most non female centric hobbies was originally and is still overwhelmingly a mens' group. Of course not! Men totally need more 'male spaces'. His fiancee was right, he's riding high on a pity party. It sounds as though he really resents her being there for him and would prefer to be in a room full of bros and homiesexuals. He's really pining for that male connection, geez. Trying to have his bachelor's party on her birthday was the height of insults. Also notice that he didn't blame his flaky male friends at all and kept making excuses for them. Yet he whines and finds it 'unacceptable' for his fiancee to be upset he wanted to party on her birthday without her.
Instead of coming to the logical conclusion that the absence of reliable men in his life is caused by most men being bad friends and worse individuals, he blames the woman in his life instead. I feel bad for her having to deal with this as his free therapist. She needs to leave his scrote ass. There is absolutely no point in being with a man who actively resents you, treats you like an object and sucks the joy out of your existence.
He literally just needed to CoMmUnIcATe with his male buddies and decided to disregard his fiancees birthday and blow up at her. Poor girl. I hope she gets out.
"I get really mad when women make fun of men for their non-angry emotions."
You guys use The Sads(TM) to abuse women all the time, to the point that depression is a red flag for abuser. I'll never stop making fun of SMARMY little shits. The man literally made his partners birthday about himself and blew up at her because MuH cHiLdHoOd. That is fucking cartoonishly textbook narcissist abuser. Millions of people have childhoods with a parent who does this exact song and dance every birthday/holiday/wedding when they arent the Center of Attention. What he did was abusive and what she did was unacceptable? She fucking pointed out the obvious wtf. "Finally opened up to her" YOU ARE ENGAGED sir. Who do you think you're fooling? Like you were clearly being a smarmy Woe is Me turd. Then you throw a tantrum proving your turdness.
This was all about getting his way in classic abuser fashion. Smarmy Sads conveniently on her birthday. Sads didn't work, better try out angry. "Men can't be emotional" my ass. Out here acting like toddlers.
the central idea of your post is absolutely on point! i'm sooo much happier when there are ZERO men in my life.
men don't crave "romantic connection", they crave using us as the rugs they step on before entering their house. they fucken hate us. they deserve whatever miserable loneliness they are facing right now. in fact, they deserve worse. this is their own fault. this whole "men are lonelier than ever" thing is just another verson of the good old blaming women for men's mistakes.
my message for the lonel men out there: die mad and alone, you fucks!
So the only person he can lean on he treats like crap? Got it.
The whole 2000s misogynistic movement of shaming women and browbeating them down enough to start dating the nerdy, dorky, emo, artistic/sci-fi/video gamer, lonely, spineless loser who's out of shape (it was a whole aesthetic back in those days) and not as good looking or tall as the evil Chads out there have absolutely ruined so many women, it's not even funny. And the effects of it is still thriving even today. Hence, the OP of that disgusting thread above.
If society had well left women alone and let women appropriately chosen the handsome, strong, provider-type of men who can keep his cool yet have deep friendships with his other fellow men instead of calling her a slut for only going after Chad, we would not be in this situation in 2022. We could have respected nature as it was. We could have let the women who had it going on, go with the men who also had it going on. Things would have made more sense.
But noooo, we have to make women pay for being so shallow, and to force them to give the lonely shit head a chance. The male virgin a chance when he's approaching his big ass age of 25-30 without one relationship to reference back on. The hypersensitive soft boy who would rage at her when she has the smarts to call him out on his bullshit. All of this and at his short height and shallow wallets, too!
Nah, I'm done with all of this. I'm done being the laid back girl I used to be and how I used to feel ashamed and sad for these types of men. I'm tired of this pandering shit. Men are not lonely. The whole world kisses their asses and cries/screams on their behalf all day, everyday, while women are left to our own devices and told we're too privileged to feel depressed. Men may succeed at suicide more, but way more women than men actively try to commit suicide. Food for thought!
Men may feel lonely because they think, as long as they find their submissive little waifu, they'll never have the sads again, nevermind realizing how absolutely abusive and toxic that is on her to bear that mountain of stress for the sake of his feelings. Nah.
Man, fuck these scrotes. You could give up everything in your life to be there for him, and he’ll be resentful that he only has you for company and doesn’t have more “male companionship”. I bet he blames his mom for his childhood problems, even though his dad was the one who left. Then they have the nerve to get mad at us for not making ourselves as miserable as them.
Men are lonely because they don’t treat each other well.
i couldn’t see my female friends not plan a bachelorette party for me, I know they would, I don’t even have that worry
But this guy is acting like he can’t find any other time to have his little get together? It’s ridiculous and then to emotionally manipulate his fiancée to ditch her on her bday.
also did he ever think he’s the problem? Like his friends don’t want to plan a huge event for him. He sounds like a dick. There must be a reason they won’t. Maybe he has no close male friends to do this for him?
I think it’s weird. any bf I’ve had always had close friends, or at least one really good friend. I truly believe when a guy has no friends there’s something so wrong with him that even men don’t want to be around him.
. "Welllll, women never, ever ask guys out. We have to ask them out!!! Even if they really like the guy, they wont ask him out! Therefore, they will never experience rejection, so unfair!"
I honestly never understood this point, it doesn't make any sense
Not being asked out by a guy you really like is rejection
I just have pure disgust for these whinny men at this point