Leave them to it, I guess. It doesn't seem like overly woke virtue signaling to me. I do believe men should do the work in questioning their own upbringing and gender roles. Women shouldn't have to do all of the re-educating. So, in summary, I'm neutral towards it. I won't applaud them because it should be the default to question and challenge misogyny, but I won't dismiss the effort either.
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Feb 01, 2023
Men have to pay? They won’t bother with that! They can’t be arsed to pay for our coffees as it is!
Exactly! The only men who will go to these events are the ones with true convictions of improving/learning and willing to spend their money well. Which is… not many 🙄
In my country, there's a not-for-profit school program run by young men who help school boys challenge stereotypes around masculinity, to value compassion, and to foster healthy relationships and coping mechanisms, etc. Even debunking porn. It’s nice to hear, but like the other comment I’m still neutral. It's sad that we're in this situation in the first place of needing to re-teach men the basics.
But I also wonder, are a few workshops/programs enough to unwind the damage already done on a boy? I think it takes a lot more than that. And it also depends on what kind of “feminism” they teach...
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Feb 01, 2023
Here's what we know: 1) men pretend to be feminists to try to get away with misogyny, sex crimes, other crimes, other cruelty, and general male bullshit. 2) our collective lifetimes of experience prove that we're right to be suspicious of men going out of their way to spend time with boys.I'm confident that this is exactly what it looks like.
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Feb 01, 2023
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Exactly- they'll probably talk about how sex work is work and imply if these males get anything violent "cravings" that they should do it to a woman who he can pay to keep quiet m
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Leave them to it, I guess. It doesn't seem like overly woke virtue signaling to me. I do believe men should do the work in questioning their own upbringing and gender roles. Women shouldn't have to do all of the re-educating. So, in summary, I'm neutral towards it. I won't applaud them because it should be the default to question and challenge misogyny, but I won't dismiss the effort either.
Men have to pay? They won’t bother with that! They can’t be arsed to pay for our coffees as it is!
In my country, there's a not-for-profit school program run by young men who help school boys challenge stereotypes around masculinity, to value compassion, and to foster healthy relationships and coping mechanisms, etc. Even debunking porn. It’s nice to hear, but like the other comment I’m still neutral. It's sad that we're in this situation in the first place of needing to re-teach men the basics.
But I also wonder, are a few workshops/programs enough to unwind the damage already done on a boy? I think it takes a lot more than that. And it also depends on what kind of “feminism” they teach...
Here's what we know: 1) men pretend to be feminists to try to get away with misogyny, sex crimes, other crimes, other cruelty, and general male bullshit. 2) our collective lifetimes of experience prove that we're right to be suspicious of men going out of their way to spend time with boys. I'm confident that this is exactly what it looks like.