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What do you ladies think of men's groups? I keep seeing men's group/work content on my social media. Some of it seems cringy unnecessary and vague(male ego boosting), some just basic self-help stuff anyone from any gender can benefit from and access in other places. All in all, I'm sensing the participants are developing a newfangled persona of the already well-established and identifiable spiritual fuckboy, and both could even overlap?? I'm also super suspicious of the language around divine masculinity vs. divine femininity they use, which anyway are concepts co-opted from Eastern spirituality and repurposed for the West to enforce regular and antiquated gender roles. In their case, they're using it to give themselves a sense of self-importance and to compensate for whatever masculinity crisis they're going through and for not living a meaningful and intentional life regardless of gender. At least, that's what it seems to me.
Your thoughts, pls. And if you ever have had the displeasure of encountering one in the wild, I'm all ears to hear about your impressions of them.
I think mens’ groups are a good idea, but only groups that genuinely help men become better people. 99.99% of mens’ groups online are centered entirely on hating women and feminism. I have found exceptions in men who are truly trying to help other men in the right way and I really appreciate their efforts, but they get frequent hate and death threats from the men who don’t want to be told that they can’t blame their personal failures on feminism.
I just saw a video of a right wing commentator (a woman) pointing out that young men aren’t even participating in society at the bare minimum level, like getting a driver’s license, moving out of their parents’ home, and getting a job. Even the right wing women are starting to notice these things more and more. The comments were pretty much all “But feminism….”
And I know we vent about men on this site as well, but FDS has really helped me and a lot of women improve and hold themselves to a higher standard. I wonder how many men were truly motivated to go to college (a real one, not a degree mill), exercise more, advance their career, and groom themselves better because of the Manosohere.
i'm out of social media, so i'm free from the content nightmare it is these days.
but from what i know about male content and male self esteem, it's base on money and women, considering that they objectify women. so lots of money = lots of women = lots of sex and that's what makes them happy and functional, which is disgusting.