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I have posted before here without any update but a couple months ago my lvm scrote of a brother living with his pickme gf.
My brother is a typical LVM scrote, broke, abusive, criminal history. Complete with a pickme mother that bends over backwards to make sure everyone is convinced her son can do no wrong. We all live under one roof. I went NC with my brother after much sibling abuse.
He preyed after a woman that was down on her luck in life and was in a vulnerable situation. Like most woman in my community, we know women get treated like crap and are the most vulnerable. We know families can be toxic and treat sons or daughters a certain shitty way depending on how low value the parents are. I don't know what lies he must have told her because when they argue the common thing I hear between their arguments coming from her is "You didn't tell me that".
Last night, I heard my narc/pickme mother going in on the bro's gf claiming to be proud of being a helicopter mom and having raised scrote sons. My brother let our mom speak to this woman and berate her. I would be humiliated if my boyfriend was letting his mom speak to me like I am an idiot. I guess according to my pick me mom and lvm brother, this woman should be grateful for the scraps of food and living in derelict (we are poor) and choosing lvm bro's side of the family instead of her going to her own family's house because I guess our family is weird, once you're here women shouldn't be going "anywhere else" without permissions. I've dealt with that. The daughters of this family are treated like pets.
I feel bad for her honestly, my nmom was lecturing her why our family is somehow better than her family, because I guess the gf's parents are divorced and the mom moved on and somehow that reflected on being a bad mom letting kids run around being kids. And how our nmom is better because she was a helicopter mom, for what reason though? None of our family members are succesful we are all potatoes here. We are all mentally ill and broke. Where is this pride coming from? We are literally not better than anyone.
The argument I heard last night, I suppose my brother has been negging her about how truly "committed" she must be to him. He has been negging her and shit testing her. He wants to make sure she doesn't leave him. He has nothing to offer. We live with our parents. None of us has jobs. He keeps searching up those youtube videos of andrew tate fans asking women about sugar daddies and women hypergamy. He asks if she's thinking of doing the same thing. What kind of crap is that? All because lvm bro has our mom to add on to this. My nmom is a total boy mom, she thinks her sons deserve hyper successful super models to date her sons. I told her off recently. She thinks her sons are "whole and complete" because they have ten fingers and toes. She thinks no women are good enough. She forgot to give her sons a brain.
This is an eldritch nightmare of a "multigenerational household", it's really just a toxic household. The only person that works is my dad. I am a college student and distance myself from the rest of the family. It sucks but I am pretty isolated even though I am living amongst this trash while I figure out what I'm doing.
do not date momma boys. Do not date men still living with momma and poppa.
edit: adding more detail and words
Momma's boys are the worst. If I were you though, I'd grey rock your family until you're able to move out. I only say this because of the risk of retaliation from your brother or another family member if you openly call them out on their behaviour. Once you've moved out and are financially independent of your family, then you are free to call them out on their behaviour because they'll have nothing to hold over your head. Until then, it might be better to keep your head down.
Since housing costs have gone sky high, I've seen a lot of talk about how people lived in multigenerational households, referencing it as some sort of idyllic solution to all of our problems (lack of elderly and childcare, housing costs). Women always bear the costs of these arrangements. Not just with labor but also their freedom and agencies are stripped away as if they were servants. Meanwhile the male family members are either slacking off or mindlessly enforcing their dominance, often rallying pickme female relatives in to the cause. I'm not a fan of our hyperindividualistic culture, but destroying women's hard earned peace is unacceptable. The ability to leave abusive situations is something I will always stand by.
What is an nmom?
Goes to show how a flower like you can rise from a bunch of thorns and weeds. No offence