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I won’t be offered a vaccine until the end of the year in my country, but I want to get it, my friends and family will all get it, but my boyfriend isn’t sure if he will and is leaning on not getting it. It’s his choice, I understand that. Do we agree to just disagree?
Has this lead to fights? Any advice?
It’s the first thing we have ever disagreed on.
dont listen to these unhinged incel "womAnS" if you truly love this person, you will respect their decision.
Well, feminism is directly tied to bodily autonomy isn’t it? So, you should be free to get vaccinated if you want just as he should be free to not get vaccinated. It’s funny how divisive this issue is among feminists and how many don’t see the connection between mandates/peer pressure and autonomy. People are blindly trusting multibillion pharmaceutical companies who are solely profit driven machines, I am vaccinated but do regret “getting the jab” as my cycle has not been the same since.
I was with a man who didn't want the vaccine and honestly it was because he thought he was this healthier than thou person. His refusal made 0 sense logically or scientifically. In my opinion, people who won't get vaccinated are themselves a social disease. They would rather kill themselves or others than get a shot, they're pathetic and selfish. Both of these traits are not something you wod find in a HVM or even a bare minimum man. This isn't an agree to disagree because it's not an opinion whether vaccines are safe or not, it's about knowing and acknowledging facts. Why would you want to be with someone who is at best deluded and st worst is purposefully ignorant?
If you’re considering marrying and children, THIS will come up again. Are you willing to agree to disagree in front of a pediatrician who is imploring you to vaccinate your children? Are you willing to deal with the fallout of being uninvited to social events bc ya know, wE jUsT aGrEe To DiSaGrEe? Are you willing to be labeled a pickme bc you deferred to a LVM “fear” of a vaccine? I really hope your answer is no. Otherwise, you and I will have to AtD - your friend is a fool.
I’d agree to disagree, but that depends on your age and the goals you have for this relationship. If you’re young - under 25, and you aren’t really dating to find a husband right now, then agree to disagree. But if you’re older than 25, and you’re looking for a relationship that will lead to marriage, or you’re hoping this relationship will lead to marriage - then I’d have a serious talk with him in a very calm voice about why this is important to you and include you wanted to discuss this with him as you’d like this relationship to continue moving forward towards engagement/marriage. But if you’re not sure he’s the one - it doesn’t really matter what his views on vaccines are.
He thinks that by the time our age group are offered it, which is looking like near the end of the year, that there will be new strains that the vaccine won’t be of much use against, he doesn’t work in a sector that deals with the public, but if his job did require him getting it he would get it, genuinely has a fear of needles. The reasons aren’t based off of conspiracy theories necessarily, his family has gotten the vaccine so he is an outlier there. He just thinks if he can hold off on the possible side effects he will, he just doesn’t think he needs it? I don’t know how to explain without being preachy, it was our first argument ever, it was a few weeks ago and I have been doing exams so I haven’t revisited it, but I think I need to.
Im not in a science field myself but I have a lot of friends that are, and I agree, I trust vaccines. I’ve always been of the opinion that I’m educated enough to know that I do not know better than all the trained scientists. However, I do understand why someone might be fearful.
Thank you, you’ve made some really good points I really need to consider!
“Agree to disagree” is a difficult term as there are only a few concepts that have multiple viewpoints which are opposing but still of equal logical or moral value. Right now I can’t think of any. Of course you can agree to disagree if one person thinks that sushi is the next best thing after sliced bread and the other one thinks that it’s totally nasty, but those conversations normally don’t end with “let’s agree to disagree”. It’s usually those conversations where one person claims that systemic racism is a thing and then the DeViL’s aDvOcAtE chimes in with a few non-arguments as to why it is not. After demonstrably proven wrong, they will use that phrase. Vaccinations are one of those topics. All vaccines have been meticulously researched and tested on countless individuals after millions of research animals before being offered to the public. While they will inevitably come with side effects, those aren’t dangerous because they’re not an effect of a disease, but an immune response. Allergic reactions are extremely rare, and comparable to the risk of using an ibuprofen for headaches. The mRNA technology does not “invade and change the DNA” as the urban legends go, it teaches cells to make the coronavirus’ spike protein and then destroy it, using a blueprint protein. So if someone “disagrees” on using vaccines, their opinion is based on fake news. Idk, as a neuroscientist I’m extremely sensitive to science denying and personally I’d drop the boyfriend. Got my first dose of Pfizer 2 weeks ago btw and I’m freling great.