The future of "ride or die" women who think they can fix men. Do not let men and/or people in your culture sell you this scam. I don't know how it made so much traction to begin with... Stay with a man that's broke in case he gets rich. Stay with a man in jail in case he gets a real job. Stay with men who cheat on you because it's just sex. Stay with an addict in case he gets clean. Stay with an abusive man because he has trauma.Etc. Etc. Etc.The scam is OBVIOUS! And the fact men don't "ride or die" for women should have been a clue it's just another way to manipulate women and keep us losing. Someone who genuinely cares about you and sees women as people will say:Don't date a man that's broke.Don't date a man if he goes to jail. Don't date a man who cheats on you. Don't date an addict unless he stays clean. Report an abusive man and put his ass in jail.
It got so much traction because most women and most sane people would respond with gratitude for that kind of devotion and support - but alas, you can't project the reasoning of a sane person onto men.
Organic proof that FDS is the only insurance against this.
Never build a man because he'll hate you for it.
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I lost count of how many times he says "I" and "me" in that article. He doesn't consider his wife's needs at all. Even when he's talking abotu how badly he behaved, it's all about how HE feels about it. Also I find it odd that he admits that he "behaved badly" but insists that he wasn't "physically or verbally abusive". The fact that he's so vague implies that he did something really bad. Otherwise why not admit it?! In fact the whole article reeks of him fishing for validation that he's still a good person even though he's leaving his supportive wife and was probably abusive to her.
Yeah, that was what I got from that as well. Also I'd be willing to bet that 'I was dishonest and ended up hurting her' is code for 'I'm a cheating piece of shit.' Seriously, FUCK this guy.
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Jun 30, 2023
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I got that vibe as well. He was either cheating or was lying about his alcoholism. Also I have my doubts as to whether he's really a "changed man". Isn't recovery from alcoholism about taking responsibility for your actions?! I don't get any sense that he's taking responsibility at all. In fact it's the opposite.
Yup. Just from his conversations alone I can tell he never reached out for outside support. If he did they'd tell him straight up it's not all about him.
He was a low-effort loser and she gave him a chance. Now he has no respect for her because she put up with a low-effort loser! You can't make this shit up. It's like the old joke "I would never want to be part of a club that would want me for a member."
Men are not an investment. You cannot "build" a HVM. Invest in yourself and the high value man will follow.
This comes off like a situation where they moved in together and she basically had to mamma this guy into a functioning member of society. I wish more women would stop feeling bad and leave situations such as addiction alone for their own good.
That isn't to say that any person in general should not empathize with an individual who is experiencing a personal struggle. However, there is a distinct separation between empathy and keeping that arms length to throwing your whole self into their issues just to be seen as "supportive". Also, there are a ton of stories and excuses out there. Don't be afraid to question what you have been told. Take a step back and ask yourself base questions such as,
"Am I getting the whole story?"
"Can I totally trust someone whose destructive behaviors require such a level of intervention?"
"How involved am I going to be?"
"What will it cost me to be involved?"
When it doesn't sound right or like you are getting the whole story, you are probably right. Intuition does not lie.
My good and high value friends/family have supported me during my deepest and darkest times and not once did I think to ditch them simply because "they reminded me of those dark times"… what is it with these ridiculous excuses. He needs to just admit he’s selfish and never respected her in the first place, she needs to un-learn the “build a man” mentality and she should be dumping him!
It comes from our culture that sees women as objects. He wants his wife gone the same way a person who went through a bad breakup will burn their ex's love letters. His wife is the biggest object that reminds him of his past.
And peep the fact that he said he wants kids. 👀 they're (future) objects to him too. He clearly doesn't want his lEgACy to be with this woman.
The difference is that you never thought of those friends and family as sexual resources. Clearly this guy just wants to fuck around. He used so many words to explain why he allegedly *should* leave his wife, when all he needed to say was "there are other, younger women out there who I [delusionally] think I have a chance with, and I'm thinking with my dick."
He’s already made up his mind and will only regard the replies (even if they’re the minority) that support him. He’s going to leave her to pursue this nameless “crush” and when the new woman doesn’t live up to the unrealistic fantasy he’s created in his head, he’s going to come back to his wife begging her to take him back. Unfortunately, she probably will.
The woman at work probably knows him as "that wierd older guy who I sometimes catch staring at me, and I'm scared hes going to try to ask me out, so I've been avoiding him".
I know a woman who moved across the country to marry some loser.
Before the year was out, she'd lost her job. Meanwhile, he'd burned all their bridges in their community AND put them a million dollars in debt on stupid investments that didn't pan out. I'm waiting to hear she's left him.
This is proof that men don't respect women that were with them when they were LVM. These douches tell us to lower our standards, but when we do then don't respect us because they wonder why are we with them when they're such losers? And now he's better because of her, and she reminds him of being a loser and is probably disgusted with her for accepting him as a loser. This is also proof how men use women as resources. They leach off us, they suck on our life force to make themselves better, and once they are fat and happy, these parasites move on to the next host.
A pickme will go above and beyond for a scroute and the only thing she wants in return is loyalty and love. A lot of men can't even provide that bare minimum requirement.
They're basically parasites that suck the life out of women. Lv men don't appreciate a women's effort. They secretly hate the few women that will put up with them but temporarily stay for their own benefit. Disgusting.
The audacity. Men accuse women of being gold diggers but men are life force diggers.
They want to to take a womans time, career, youth, body, money, emotional energy, innocence, dignity, freedom, status, womb ect.
His wife changed him for the better, and now she just "severs as a reminder to the darkest periods of his life". You can see he tries to get us to empathize with him in the post, trying to look less of a scrote, like he cares about his wife, but we can all see right through his bullshit. Don't forget ladies, you can never win with a guy, they will always make you to be the villain, even when you do everything to help or please them, they will always find a way to see you as the problem.
I'm sorry but I can't take any relationships that began as 18F/20M seriously. Neither of them would have had their shit together enough at that point to pursue a serious relationship where they both had enough experience (both with romance as well as life in general) to actually 'make it.' At best, they'd both be settling for each other because they wouldn't know any better.
That's what a "changed" man in the prime of his life acts like? A reddit loser complaining about how he thinks he's too good for his wife? Big surprise, chief, you're still a low-life.
Also where is the link to the reddit post? I'll rip that piece of sh!t a new arsehole. How dare he behaves that way, imagine if a woman did that then the manosphere would use that example of my using women is good.
As someone who grew up with an alcoholic this behavior is up to par. I don't believe him when he says he wasn't physically or verbally abusive. Like how would he know he wasn't fully there? I know that sounds harsh but it's the truth. An addict is usually one of the ethier.
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I agree 100%. Most alcoholics I know become either verbally or physically abusive when drunk so I find it very hard to believe that this guy wasn't either. Also he claims he wasn't abusive but also claims that he hurt her (but is vague on details). It really doesn't add up.
This right here is the reason why I snap ties as soon as disrespect is served, imagine wasting 3 years of your life making a scrote happy who doesn't treat you right. I rather be alone for the rest of my life tolerate toddler behavior. I've been there before, tolerating men's crap with the hope they will stop one day and treat me they way they did before they start bread crumbing and become unkind. When disrespect is served they will never stop, they want you to end things so that they can make other ppl believe he's a nice guy and that it's women who pull the plug all the time.
When they disrespect you they dont love you. Good men don't need a second chance, losers need that. When they disrespected you without knowing ( Which is very rare because 9 out 10 they know what they did) they will express sincere regret, maybe on the verge of tears and they will keep this in mind as a reminder to never behave this way again. If he says sorry and doesn't change after the second time or be at his best behavior until he changes again then leave.
Remember what's in the handbook " If he wanted to he would" Please don't be like I was.
Even if you don't want to break up with him remove yourself for a few days, and keep on leaving for a while everytime he shows disrespect so that he knows one day you'll get so tired of it that you're leaving.
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Jul 01, 2023
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I agree 100%. Respect is SO important. If a man disrespects you early on in the relationship, it's only going to go downhill from there. Also (and I realise that this is probably beyond the scope of this discussion) I would strongly advise against dating alcoholics. Thankfully there are no alcoholics in my family (plenty of other problems in my family but not that particular one) but I grew up in an area where alcoholism was rampant and let me tell you, being married to an alcoholic is an absolute miserable life. Alcoholics will never love you as much as they love booze. They struggle to hold down a job. They will let you down repeatedly because they got drunk. Plus most alcoholics are abusive when drunk, no matter what this guy claims.
Pickme grand mother maried an alcoholic and he was a violent pos. Yet has the vile nerve to say that I need to cook and clean or nobody would want me. She value's her criminal scrote grand sons all the time. And I've seen for myself that ppl who drink/smoke/ have a criminal records have no redeeming qualities.
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A reminder to never 'fix a man' ladies and especially not at your own expense!
The future of "ride or die" women who think they can fix men. Do not let men and/or people in your culture sell you this scam. I don't know how it made so much traction to begin with... Stay with a man that's broke in case he gets rich. Stay with a man in jail in case he gets a real job. Stay with men who cheat on you because it's just sex. Stay with an addict in case he gets clean. Stay with an abusive man because he has trauma. Etc. Etc. Etc. The scam is OBVIOUS! And the fact men don't "ride or die" for women should have been a clue it's just another way to manipulate women and keep us losing. Someone who genuinely cares about you and sees women as people will say: Don't date a man that's broke. Don't date a man if he goes to jail. Don't date a man who cheats on you. Don't date an addict unless he stays clean. Report an abusive man and put his ass in jail.
Organic proof that FDS is the only insurance against this.
Never build a man because he'll hate you for it.
I lost count of how many times he says "I" and "me" in that article. He doesn't consider his wife's needs at all. Even when he's talking abotu how badly he behaved, it's all about how HE feels about it. Also I find it odd that he admits that he "behaved badly" but insists that he wasn't "physically or verbally abusive". The fact that he's so vague implies that he did something really bad. Otherwise why not admit it?! In fact the whole article reeks of him fishing for validation that he's still a good person even though he's leaving his supportive wife and was probably abusive to her.
He was a low-effort loser and she gave him a chance. Now he has no respect for her because she put up with a low-effort loser! You can't make this shit up. It's like the old joke "I would never want to be part of a club that would want me for a member."
Men are not an investment. You cannot "build" a HVM. Invest in yourself and the high value man will follow.
My good and high value friends/family have supported me during my deepest and darkest times and not once did I think to ditch them simply because "they reminded me of those dark times"… what is it with these ridiculous excuses. He needs to just admit he’s selfish and never respected her in the first place, she needs to un-learn the “build a man” mentality and she should be dumping him!
He’s already made up his mind and will only regard the replies (even if they’re the minority) that support him. He’s going to leave her to pursue this nameless “crush” and when the new woman doesn’t live up to the unrealistic fantasy he’s created in his head, he’s going to come back to his wife begging her to take him back. Unfortunately, she probably will.
'She moved to my country to be with me' 💀
Women really need to stop doing this.
This is proof that men don't respect women that were with them when they were LVM. These douches tell us to lower our standards, but when we do then don't respect us because they wonder why are we with them when they're such losers? And now he's better because of her, and she reminds him of being a loser and is probably disgusted with her for accepting him as a loser. This is also proof how men use women as resources. They leach off us, they suck on our life force to make themselves better, and once they are fat and happy, these parasites move on to the next host.
A pickme will go above and beyond for a scroute and the only thing she wants in return is loyalty and love. A lot of men can't even provide that bare minimum requirement.
They're basically parasites that suck the life out of women. Lv men don't appreciate a women's effort. They secretly hate the few women that will put up with them but temporarily stay for their own benefit. Disgusting.
The audacity. Men accuse women of being gold diggers but men are life force diggers.
They want to to take a womans time, career, youth, body, money, emotional energy, innocence, dignity, freedom, status, womb ect.
I hope the responses to this are ripping him to shreds.
On the other hand, I also hope he fucks off out of her life, she gets the house and everything else worth having, while he gets nothing.
Saving grace is she doesn't have kids with this cretin. That makes her much less tied to him.
I hope that woman he's crushing on has self-respect and she laughs in his face when he tries to ask her out.
His wife changed him for the better, and now she just "severs as a reminder to the darkest periods of his life". You can see he tries to get us to empathize with him in the post, trying to look less of a scrote, like he cares about his wife, but we can all see right through his bullshit. Don't forget ladies, you can never win with a guy, they will always make you to be the villain, even when you do everything to help or please them, they will always find a way to see you as the problem.
I'm sorry but I can't take any relationships that began as 18F/20M seriously. Neither of them would have had their shit together enough at that point to pursue a serious relationship where they both had enough experience (both with romance as well as life in general) to actually 'make it.' At best, they'd both be settling for each other because they wouldn't know any better.
Funny thing is his crush resembles his wife 😂 And seems he hasn't even spoken to her so that's the only thing sustaining it
This piece of shit … seriously. F this guy
That's what a "changed" man in the prime of his life acts like? A reddit loser complaining about how he thinks he's too good for his wife? Big surprise, chief, you're still a low-life.
Also where is the link to the reddit post? I'll rip that piece of sh!t a new arsehole. How dare he behaves that way, imagine if a woman did that then the manosphere would use that example of my using women is good.
As someone who grew up with an alcoholic this behavior is up to par. I don't believe him when he says he wasn't physically or verbally abusive. Like how would he know he wasn't fully there? I know that sounds harsh but it's the truth. An addict is usually one of the ethier.
Can’t appreciate what he has. Fucking scumbag
This right here is the reason why I snap ties as soon as disrespect is served, imagine wasting 3 years of your life making a scrote happy who doesn't treat you right. I rather be alone for the rest of my life tolerate toddler behavior. I've been there before, tolerating men's crap with the hope they will stop one day and treat me they way they did before they start bread crumbing and become unkind. When disrespect is served they will never stop, they want you to end things so that they can make other ppl believe he's a nice guy and that it's women who pull the plug all the time.
When they disrespect you they dont love you. Good men don't need a second chance, losers need that. When they disrespected you without knowing ( Which is very rare because 9 out 10 they know what they did) they will express sincere regret, maybe on the verge of tears and they will keep this in mind as a reminder to never behave this way again. If he says sorry and doesn't change after the second time or be at his best behavior until he changes again then leave.
Remember what's in the handbook " If he wanted to he would" Please don't be like I was.
Even if you don't want to break up with him remove yourself for a few days, and keep on leaving for a while everytime he shows disrespect so that he knows one day you'll get so tired of it that you're leaving.