I remember when I was young and naive and thought men were stupid, clueless, and helpless and that’s why they lived in filth like rabid raccoons and needed a “woman‘s touch” in order to have a clean home and eat nutritious meals —poor creatures (sarcasm).
Turns out men just don’t want to live better —they’re fine living in filth and eating garbage until a stupid woman comes along and does the work for them that men think they are too good to do.
The irony of thinking you’re better than a woman while wearing hot wing stained sweatpants that haven’t been washed for two months, sitting in a mouldy basement apartment with a bare mattress on the floor and black liquid oozing out of the fridge…
Naive would have been a better word, but she’s still right. This is why those loser men insist on younger women, because they don’t have the life experience to know better.
I can't imagine how low your self esteem and how high your pickmeism must be to not only go to a tinder dude's apartment on a first date but to CLEAN IT. I mean... what the hell going on in the minds of these women? Men are opportunistic scrotes, no surprise, but how can any woman think "That stranger will certainly love me and want to be with me if I drive over to his house and vacuum!" ?
It is a thing unfortunately. I can't say what's going on in the head of the woman I know, but I can say she's hateful enough towards women that I don't care. As one of the hosts said in the second tinder swindler episode "some women just don't make it to the promised land"
I will never ever cook and clean for a man. Especially if that man is not my husband. I cook for myself and If he wants to have a bite he can have some but I refuse to cook just for him. As for cleaning I clean up for myself only. Lat relationship ftw.
I might cook for a man for the simple reason that cooking brings me joy. But he has to make it worthwhile for me. He also has to prove that he's capable of maintaining a house by himself. And I won't cook regularly for a boyfriend. Special occasions maybe. I'm not about to be taken advantage of.
If I want Pizza and he doesn’t then that’s too bad. I refuse to continue where his mommy left off. If a man can’t cook for himself then that’s not my problem.
Ok so obviously these dudes are losers, but how can I encourage more women to put men to work like this and reject being treated this way? Both bfs I’ve had (not at the same time) as a young adult did or do work for me, at my house where they do not live. My bf just last week recaulked my bathtub because he has more experience with that particular task and would do a cleaner job, and I asked him if he could help me. He was happy to do so, and he loves to cook for me just as I love to cook for him. I joke about how he loves being useful and I love using him, because it makes us laugh and he genuinely enjoys helping the people he loves, as any kind person should. In fact, usefulness is a key factor in my interest, since I’m also a generous and helpful person who wants to do nice things for my partner, and I only accept partners who are similarly or more generous with their time and energy.
More women need to develop this kind of attitude, because as long as you are also helpful and giving, that’s simply how you ensure an equitable and healthy relationship. Happiness is not found when one partner is always giving and one is always taking.
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I support this thinking. My grandma always told me 3men =1, meaning at least 3 must meet your needs. Long after my grandpa died and bought her a house, she had a man over each week that fixed furniture, cut the grass, etc. I watched her kick him out when she was done. She was not in a relationship and never said nice things to him! But he kept coming. Haha! And she had a son and grandsons to boss. So I copied, guys who like you and who know that you don’t like them are willing to do the most. I have a couple guy friends that take out my trash, shop at Costco, give me rides to airports, fix my blinds, etc. you have to be ruthless and not give a fudge about them. They like to work for us. but never never work for them!! They won’t respect you and may physically abuse you. Of course never ask strange men from online to help you with anything. only guy friends or relatives I ask. If you are married only, then you can negotiate how to live and take on duties in harmony.
I once had a guy message me on online dating a long time ago asking if he could be like my domestic servant and clean my house for me. Said he's done this before with other women one that had a bf and the bf knew about it. Said he didn't want anything sexual in return but that I had to like order him around. Said I could have a guy over while he was there if I felt more comfortable that way. He also asked if he could be my personal chauffeur and drive me and my friends around when we went out but wanted us to be mean to him and insult him. I seriously did consider it before realizing I wouldn't ever be okay with being mean to someone for no reason even if they asked.
It's not as good of a deal as it seems. He's doing that to get himself off, so he'll have a lot of expectations from you. He'll eventually get pushy with your boundaries.
I have actually met men who get together with BrOs and celebrate BRoManCe by cooking together. They have one poor soul who will clean alone afterwards. But none of them extend it to their gfs. Rather,they get relieved and say "ahhh i don't have to cook anymore" . Men happily downgrade themselves individually and refuse to make use of basic skills they might already have simply because a woman will do it for them.
I am so glad that you have found your boundaries that allow you to keep being the wonderful giving person who you are without being taken advantage of.
my recommendation to women here is to not settle for anything less than a man with this attitude of giving and doing for the collective good. Since I have experienced that, I now have a standard that any person I date, but particularly any man I date, must have the attitude of wanting to be helpful and useful to others, but particularly to those he
have met a few men like this, which doesn’t necessarily mean that they are high value in other ways, but they do exist, and it’s worth not settling for anything less.
I used to hook up with a guy that he told me he would do this to ex girlfriend and hookups. He tried that shit one time on me. I laugh in his face I can’t remember exactly what I said, that he ended it up cleaning it himself. He never asked me again and even told me that he like that I didn’t take shit from him. That is why is so important to have boundaries and not take any shit from anyone.
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I remember when I was young and naive and thought men were stupid, clueless, and helpless and that’s why they lived in filth like rabid raccoons and needed a “woman‘s touch” in order to have a clean home and eat nutritious meals —poor creatures (sarcasm).
Turns out men just don’t want to live better —they’re fine living in filth and eating garbage until a stupid woman comes along and does the work for them that men think they are too good to do.
The irony of thinking you’re better than a woman while wearing hot wing stained sweatpants that haven’t been washed for two months, sitting in a mouldy basement apartment with a bare mattress on the floor and black liquid oozing out of the fridge…
When I say "all men" I definitely mean all men.
I can't imagine how low your self esteem and how high your pickmeism must be to not only go to a tinder dude's apartment on a first date but to CLEAN IT. I mean... what the hell going on in the minds of these women? Men are opportunistic scrotes, no surprise, but how can any woman think "That stranger will certainly love me and want to be with me if I drive over to his house and vacuum!" ?
I will never ever cook and clean for a man. Especially if that man is not my husband. I cook for myself and If he wants to have a bite he can have some but I refuse to cook just for him. As for cleaning I clean up for myself only. Lat relationship ftw.
Ok so obviously these dudes are losers, but how can I encourage more women to put men to work like this and reject being treated this way? Both bfs I’ve had (not at the same time) as a young adult did or do work for me, at my house where they do not live. My bf just last week recaulked my bathtub because he has more experience with that particular task and would do a cleaner job, and I asked him if he could help me. He was happy to do so, and he loves to cook for me just as I love to cook for him. I joke about how he loves being useful and I love using him, because it makes us laugh and he genuinely enjoys helping the people he loves, as any kind person should. In fact, usefulness is a key factor in my interest, since I’m also a generous and helpful person who wants to do nice things for my partner, and I only accept partners who are similarly or more generous with their time and energy.
More women need to develop this kind of attitude, because as long as you are also helpful and giving, that’s simply how you ensure an equitable and healthy relationship. Happiness is not found when one partner is always giving and one is always taking.
"Elon Musk genius level", so, a narcissistic chauvinist fraud? Wow, that actually seems accurate for this guy.
💯 Mommy Bangmaid. Things we can’t UNSEE once we’ve seen it. Thank you, FDS! 💜
I'm curious. How DOES that conversation start?
Luckily, I have never had a man from OLD ask me to clean.
Idiots
I used to hook up with a guy that he told me he would do this to ex girlfriend and hookups. He tried that shit one time on me. I laugh in his face I can’t remember exactly what I said, that he ended it up cleaning it himself. He never asked me again and even told me that he like that I didn’t take shit from him. That is why is so important to have boundaries and not take any shit from anyone.
Honestly it doesnt sound true ?!
Probably one of these losers' fantasies though
Wait OP just curious, what was the content of the post that spurred these replies? Did he just tell the girl to come over and clean or what?
Wait OP just curious, what was the content of the post that spurred these replies? Did he just tell the girl to come over and clean or what?