So my cousin came back from a date with a guy that sells cars for a living. He used the same sales tactics on her. She told me that she met him on Hinge and that his conversation with her started off as a business proposal. It literally started with the words, "Picture this: You, me, and a drone flying along the city coastline while we have picnic on the beach". She thought he was being cute since that was like his whole profile persona, and that he's flirting with her. Yeah, no he's a shady salesperson.
She agrees to see him sometime in the future. He sets a time for her and she declines due to work related reasons. He takes no for an answer. This is where he starts to treat their date as a shady business negotiation. Initially, he offers a coffee date, and she declines due to work. She offers him another day, but he persists and it has to be on that date. Again, she declines. Now, he goes for the "high roller" deal and says "how about dinner?" Because you know, dinner is obviously better than coffee, and he truly thinks that she's rejecting his offer and not because she has other commitments. And yet again, she declines. He adds, "if you're so busy, we could go for dessert after dinner". This doesn't make sense to me since he wants more of her time, but it totally makes sense in the business world, since he's adding on to the offer. Dessert is like him throwing in free car mats. She politely declines. How does he respond? He accuses her of seeing other men on the app. I'm like, no shit! But in this case, she had a busy schedule.
Anyways, even after all of this, he wears her down, she caves (and thinks he's being persistent which equates to his desire for her), and he takes her on a date. Where? To Dunkin Donuts. He didn't even offer to pay for her drink. Most of you are probably wondering why she'd agree to that date. This is where his shadiness sales tactics "kick in". He operates on assumption. When she agreed to the date, she assumed that he had reservations to place that he talked about. On the day of the date, she asks him "where are we going?" He replied with, "Coffee". She tried to subtly tell him that he offered dinner. He explained that the dinner date was for the initial date that he had planned, and something along the lines that the dinner date offer had "expired", and that today was a different day, so they were going on a coffee date. He just pulled a "bait and switch" technique. What I think is that, he was going to use a coupon for their date, and it expired. Jk lol, but it would explain why he used business jargon.
With all of this, my cousin comes home starving. We ended the night ordering takeout, and this is where she is hysterically telling my sister and I everything. She even said that he tried to go in for a kiss, and she pushed him away. He pretended to act confuse and thought that the date was going well. My cousin was trembling with anger as she told us what happened next and that he asked if she wanted if she wanted to go his place for coffee. She playfully says, "MORE coffee? Didn't we just have coffee for an hour?". She tried to keep her composure as he walked her to her car as he made other comments.
I never knew that men could be so shady and treat women as a sale. Are we just another number to some of these guys?
Edit: Our family is from a business background, so we're trained to see things from a business perspective. She may be more adequate since she literally does negotiations for a living at a firm. We were never taught to treat family or love like businesses. Even though I didn't go through this ordeal, I feel blindsided that there are men who exist as such.
his conversation with her started off as a business proposal. It literally started with the words, "Picture this: You, me, and a drone flying along the city coastline while we have picnic on the beach".
BRUH
This loser POS just used a redpill method taught by a redpill loser incel used to psychologically manipulate women. It's called 'verbal Fractionation'
https://fractionation.net/hypnotic-fractionation/#step-1-pre-fractionation
When I was a preteen, my dad gave me a talk about men. He said "NEVER date a CAR SALESMAN." According to him, they operate on false pretenses, pushy, liars, cheap and unfaithful as a romantic partner. He never warned me that seriously about men from other professions.
Thinking that persistence is good reminds me of a case in Gift of Fear ch.8. De Becker wrote that persistence is: '[...] refusing to hear “no,” a clear signal of trouble in any context.'
Glad your cousin is safe and all right, btw! Fuck that guy.
This needs to be a prizewinning play