How did women earn the stereotype of talking too much when men never know when to stfu?

Women talk "too much" because men don't want to listen to it. Anything a man doesn't want to deal with will be deemed "too much", that's why you shouldn't listen to men who say you are "needy" (for having basic needs) or "demand too much" (for wanting him to act like an adult human) because they are just saying they don't have enough to offer you in a world where women get blamed for everything.

We also get the over-emotional stereotype that’s undeserved. When is the last time a woman you know threw something at a TV because a sports team lost? I still have memories of my dad pounding the floor with his fists and screaming obscenities over the Miami Dolphins. Meanwhile, I’m a few feet away playing with my Barbies like “There he goes again.” 😂😂

Edit: Forgot to add, my dad did also throw a brick at the TV once over football. So when they started making those novelty foam bricks, there was a legitimate reason for the idea.

"Men talk soooo much and they never pick on up the social cues to stop."

Many of them *do* pick up on social cues. They keep talking on and on about whatever they are interested in, knowingly keeping you and/or the group hostage.

So much bad behavior by men is discounted bc 'they just don't know any better'.

BS. They know.

It's always projection. They aren't capable of empathy the way women are.

Fellow ADHDer, and my lord, the whole man monologuing thing, I FELT that. I recently had to leave all my major friend groups because I'm tired of 1-2 men in the group dominating conversations and giving no room for anyone else to talk. What makes it EVEN WORSE is the fact that it's usually them trauma dumping about typical scrote problems with women aka complaining a woman isn't pickme enough for them. I have no problem with being supportive of friends and listneing to them/trying to help them with their problems when they really need help, but when they are constantly putting me in a position of being a therapist and leaving no room for any fun conversations, it can become a major nuisance.

"I don't understand their overwhelming need to be the smartest most charismatic person in the room. Because that's what this comes down too. Nobody talks THAT much unless they want attention and validation"

That kind of behavior defintely reeks of insecurity, which leads me to think their claims of "women talking too much" is just projection.

"Men like to blame autism and other neurological conditions for this behavior but I honestly think it's an excuse" Agree. I know from my own experiece that being neurodivergent can present some obstacles, however, there is always a way to overcome them and do better. Sometimes your ways of achieving results might be different from neurotypical people, but that's alright because at least you're putting in the effort to achieve the same results as everyone else. E.g. I am terrible at time managment, so I resorted to using a planner and giving myself deadlines because it helps me manage my time better and not be late to things. Yes it is different, but as long as it helps me stop being late, I think its a good thing. I prefer to focus on finding solutions that work rather than using a problem as an excuse to stay the same. Men really don't have "neurodivergence" to blame because it's possible to change, they just don't want to.

There was a study done and I think they figured out the higher pitched voices + stereotypes caused the young males to believe the females were talking more.

Also there are studies about men taking up more audible space. You'll notice this when a random crackhead whistles out loud once he figures out there's another person around, or when old men feel the need to comment on your every move like it's the weather. Constantly trying to make small and beg for attention, etc.

On the bright side I see it as our very voices being high value , when they tell us to be quiet it's because they want to stay dumb and think their dumb thoughts without being distracted by our high value opinions and verbal contributions.

To cope I hum and make little noises by myself sometimes, that way I take up my own verbal space and don't feel so trapped.

Gaslighting and an attempt to cause stress, abusive ex did this all the time, told me i was too long winded so I'd have to shorten things then I'd be accused of leaving things out on purpose. I have openly admitted for years when I stop listening, people are taken aback at first, I just say it simply. I might come off as rude but it doesn't occur to me to care at the time.

We talk "too much" because men don't care about us. When one says this about us or you or another woman, I guarantee you it's from a place of hatred/dislike.

You've probably been in the situation where you've had to listen to a person you don't like talk and talk and talk, and you just wished they would stop talking. The men who think that women talk too much literally are just revealing how they don't give a fuck about women, or at least the particular woman they're making this complaint about.

Men also rarely ask you questions

Projection. Everything men accuse us of doing is what they are doing.

i agree! i have a coworker like that. i ask him one specific question that he can answer in 10 seconds and he wants to tell me how to do my job (which is different from his), talks for like 1 hour and is 100% he is the most helpful person alive. and he is like that with clients too. he repeats the same example dozens of times to explain things. it's so cringy! i can hear the frustration in the clients voice saying "yeah, i get it" for the 10th time while the guy won't stop talking.

i think most people are too self absorbed to realize they need to be quiet for a moment, but i get the impression men are usually more self absorbed than women. i think it all comes down to self confidence. we all know men have the most ridiculous confidence, to the point where it gets pathetic. like, dude... for real? so it makes sense that they talk too much.