Is it me or have men over the past 10-15 years seriously lost even more basic conversation skills? Many men complain about women talking too much but lots of men never know when to shut tf up.
A man who talks too much is one of my biggest red flags. There's a serious lack of self reflection and insecurities in men who never shut up. They're annoying af.
I can count on one hand the men in my life who I respect bc they respect me and listen to my perspective during a conversation. So few can hold a real conversation and listen without being defensive or a know it all. Depressing numbers.
What gets me is when men don't realize (or care) how boring they are. My brother came to visit over the summer and we had a family dinner. He spent the whole dinner listing classical literature that he had read. He didn't have any interesting takes on the books, he just got a kick out of asking, did you read this? It was really good. Did you listen to this obscure album? It's really good. yawn... They don't seem to notice or care if we are bored to death. I have a man in my community group who will talk at length about himself but won't ask any questions. And they just expect us to listen to their monologues with stars in our eyes. They don't pay attention to our facial expressions or body language that shows us as totally checked out.
I just let them tell on themselves. You'd be surprised how many admit to being woman beaters and pedophiles, albeit with an "I'm a victim, somehow" smokescreen. It's porn/social media/narcissistic culture. They're out of touch with reality because they consume depravity, and inevitably escalate because they seek more novelty/depravity. It doesn't help that their masculinity is 100% tied to hurting women and children, an evil and cowardly act. Men can't consume and value these things so much, and not treat women some type of way.
I'm not a fan of talkers either. A lot of them do the hero/victim thing too. So many narcissists! I've heard it called "incel monologuing" lol. I cant stand when a dude goes on a monologue about what an amazing great person he is. There's a reason he cant just *be* an amazing person. Also, it would be cringe and weird if i did it, so it's cringe and weird when he does it. Why do they not understand this? It's like verbal masturbation.
Lol, this is why I purposely tease men a bit at the beginning, I'm not looking to make them feel bad like negging, but I am checking for their defensiveness and moodiness and sense of humor. It usually engages men to tease me back and THAT is an excellent way to see if they are going to be playful or straight up neg you. *Also it lets me practice being mean to men, which ups my roast game, which brings me joy*
My ex boyfriend would dominate most of the conversations he took part in, and 90% of the interaction would be him showing off his knowledge. If I disagreed about something, I would have so much verbal diarrhea thrown in my face. He really fit the abuser profile "Mr Right", described by Lundy Bancroft. When we would socialize, even with my own friends, he would make it impossible for me to speak for long or be the center of attention. He completely disregarded everyone else being annoyed at him or being bored to death.
I remember saying that I wanted somebody who could interact normally, when we broke up. And he replied "Oh, so you don't like intelligent people?". LOL.
He was so incredibly insecure and self-centered, if he didn't prove how smart he was every 10 seconds, he couldn't cope anymore. So glad to be rid of him, I'm never overlooking that red flag again.
As someone who dated an abusive diagnosed narcissist for 2.5 years, a man monologuing about himself is the biggest indication that he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Run run run. I was young and dumb. I went on a date and he talked about himself the entire date. I could barely get a word in. By the third date this man was love bombing me. Which made no sense at all. He only knew my name. He interuttped everything I said to talk about himself. He kept going on and on about how 'beautiful' I was. Another massive red flag. All he liked about me was my looks.
This is why I think I just might break the FDS age gap rule. I'm 40, and I can't stand men my age- much less those younger than me. There's a scrote in my class who is 40, and he has claimed me as his crush. Every time I see him he either lavishes me with compliments or gives me advice on how I can improve. He thinks because he wants to eff me that I feel the same way, and therefore care what he thinks. So many men are like him. I had a bad dye job last year, and when I came to church this dude who's been sniffing me out seemed to take it as a personal insult. He came up to me right away and asked "Why did you do that to your hair? It was so much better before!" I am so sick of men and their opinions. Yes, older men will think they're smarter and more experienced than you, but all men will. Out of all my relationships, my biggest age gap relationship was actually the most tolerable.
I had one scrote from OLD who invited me to get to know him. I didn't block and delete, just moved on. I heard from him again a month later and he said I need to put more effort in because I'd just stopped replying 😂
Always block. It was worth an extra laugh though
I went on a date with a guy once who seemed to be using a mental checklist - where did you go to school? Do you have siblings? and so on. I actually cut the date short (we were supposed to have brunch then maybe a festival). I said I didn't feel listened to and of course he got mad. The thing is you need to ask genuine follow-up questions not just move on to the next topic. I'm not sure how most women I know learned how to do this and men didn't.
I met a guy like this just a few days ago. He went on and on an on for hours (not exaggerating) about himself and tried to prove me he would make a great husband, I was just listening and nodding (I was bored and wanted to leave, but did not want to be impolite), then after 4h of him talking he asked me to tell him about myself, I said you need to ask me questions if you want to get to know me. I don't talk a lot unless someone is genuinely interested and inquisitive. He could not think of anything to ask me.
When I used to go out I would see so many women on what were clearly first dates just sitting there while a man talked at them. I would try to count the number of questions he asked her. Usually I didn’t get to even 1.