It's almost Valentine's Day. Get ready to dump those NVM scrotes!

You're right! "Activities" are not gifts and they are not really a sign of a man investing in YOU! "Activities" mean nothing if they're not giving you tangible and real gifts that are solely for you. Sure these things are nice and I expect them to be a part of our relationship, but imagine just perpetually doing "activities" with a scrote and if it ends you have nothing to show for your time with him! A nice piece of jewelry, sure, I'll take it... but he should be improving my life from all angles and gifting and improvements need to be happening really consistently and often. I want to see a lot of tangible and worthwhile items coming into my life.

It makes me think of these perpetual Peter Pan scrotes always wanting to do endless "activities" with their woman... Traveling, "exploring what the world has to offer" (🙄)... First of all... settle down already if you're older, secondly find a male friend to go rock climbing with or do the zipline or whatever it is... we aren't your "buddies."

Women should like and fully expect things from their scrotes!

Men who say they're looking for "activity partners" are the most selfish scum on the planet. They expect a woman to do exactly what they (the men) want to do exactly when they want to do it and slap a 50/50 requirement on top. "Pay your own way to go on a six-hour hike with me!"

Luckily, I learned this in my early 20s. I am no man's activity mule.

Not to mention they are usually dangerous!!! ie. You go snowboarding with him all the time and he leads you to double black diamonds where you just don't feel ready, but there is no way but down! You're shitted the entire time and you'd rather die than keep going but you have no choice. And since his buddies or family are there, you don't want to cause a ruckus so you just do it, but inside you want to kill the man. When you make it to the bottom he says, "See, I knew you could do it...." I should have tossed my board at his ugly mug and called ski patrol. This is why you will see couples fighting all over the mountain... pushy and thoughtless men!

I was a 13 year long activity "cool girl" because I have that adventurous side to me, too. But let me tell you, there is absolutely no pay off for us in these scenarios and these types of scrotes don't care if you live or die during said "activity."

These guys were just stinking up your life from all angles! 🤣 Your stories make me shudder. Smelly, cheap jewelry and flowers! Excuse me while I dry heave for a moment!

I used to feel the way you described, too. I've since recovered (thank goddd).

Gifts are extremely telling. I don't even like receiving an expensive gift from them if it doesn't come with a sweet card that he took the time to write. To me it just screams actual investment and it's legitimately a deal breaker for me if I don't see it.

The types of gifts are another thing. I love a good mix of nice versions of things that I actually need and will improve my life, things I would never spend the $$$ on but level me up somehow, or sweet thoughtful ones that connect to my interests and passions (like a wakeboard, nice paint brushes, etc.). It's gotta be all of it with nice cards or I'm disgusted and out the door.

I prefer gifts that I can eat, drink or use. Only then I view the gift as something I appreciate. Used items he no longer wants is a big red flag in my opinion. I get very annoyed when I get something and a swab is taken out of it.

Yet I need to be thankful.. no..

I mentioned before that a dude who liked me wanted to get me crisps I watched him leave and instead of crossing the street to buy a new one he went to his mothers house to get crisp. I just got up and left, there is no way I’m accepting your crumbs.

Second this! If he wants to, he will!

I would argue that a woman shouldn't give Valentine gifts to a man unless they are married.

Valentine's Day is a chance for the man to impress the woman, not the other way around.

Men don't care about Valentine's Day. This is not an exaggeration.

I think you're right about this. In thinking about it, I know I gave cards but I can't really remember a time I actually gave the dude a gift for Valentine's.

It really is a holiday to actually celebrate and impress the woman in their life...It's a woman centered and romantic holiday, hence the reason NVM are so allergic to it. The only ones who don't like it are ones who are playing you, don't like you, or are unsure about you. Good men have no problem doing it! I've been showered with gifts and things to the high heavens for Valentine's Day. IME, men who are truly in love enjoy it.

That honestly makes me want to throw up! Not even kidding.. Imagine a man who gives you gifts "just because." That's what you deserve!

I had a few exes like that, loooong ago lol

Never accept anything less than your best men have treated you in the past... then multiply that treatment by a lot. That's the level of treatment you should be accepting out of these scrotes.

If they asked you out, you'd be gone lol! It's situational, not you employing standards....

They DO ask me out, but it's for fwb, cheap coffee dates, or they are inconsistent.

What you've been telling me is that they don't match or that you've changed up your profile just to see who will bite.... and then you're surprised by NVM scrotes doing things like hiding the fact that they have kids. You're worried about how you look on there.

Honestly, dude.... the mental gymnastics you are doing to refuse to level up and remain a pickme are actually impressive, but I won't be on board. You're fervent to find a man instead of taking care of yourself. The true definition of "pickme."

Block your exes, stop giving filthy scrotes your time or "bullying them" after work, and just be alone for a while. No matter what advice we have on here or that FDS has in general for leveling up, you are not going to do it. The excuses for keeping yourself low level are nauseating at this point.