The difference between incels and FDS

We are frustrated because it’s so hard to find men who meet our bare minimum standards.

They are frustrated (enraged is the better word) because we won’t settle for them.

We are the employer saying “There are no good candidates out there who are remotely qualified for this position. I’ll have to leave it open.”

They are the potential employee raging because a company won’t just give them a six-figure senior position after they’ve submitted a resume that contains NONE of the minimum requirements. And the resume is written in crayon on construction paper.

The ball is in their court to actually change the situation. We cannot change men, so we make the best of being single.

Male projection. They project their own deprived minds onto us. The same with slurs like b*tch - who is paying for s*x and is porn sick, again? Who is the REAL b*tch?

The difference between us and incels is that WE refuse to settle for a man who doesn't meet a minimum set of standards, while they cannot find a woman who will lower her standards enough that they can meet them.

Also, incel = Involuntary Celibate. Dunno bout those guys, but I can make a phone call to any one of the single decently attractive men I know and they will risk a hefty speeding ticket to get here before I change my mind (not that I would, this is an extreme hypothetical in order to reinforce my point). The incels we're referring to can't get the women they want to even consider them.

TLDR; We are celibate by choice, they are celibate because they have no choice.

a """"friend"""" of mine (more like an ex friend) thinks our LVM/HVM system is the same as the 0-10 scale incels use to classify women. i tried to explain to him that we're just trying to be safe, we're defending ourselves from their misogyny, but he idn't agree. oh well, can't say i was surprised hahaha

people keep blaming women for choosing to date bad men. welp! FDS is here helping us make better choices, so i don't understand all the vitriol these same people give us. if anything, they should thank FDS.

Frankly, there is definitely some emotional overlap I see between the two communities such as widespread resenment, anger, and disappointment, but the differences end here. Even the three emotions I mentioned earlier have different causes. Incels are angry, resentful, disappointed men because what they want from women is nothing but controlling misogynistic bullshit. On the other hand, FDS is angry, resentful, and disappointed because a lot of men behave in a way that validates exactly how they think of men.

I don't know how they can say we have an easier time getting sex, then say we can't get sex, then say we're denying men sex with us, then say we should jump of a cliff because no one would want to be with such ugly hags, then say they would rape us, then say the Chad's are all taking us... make it make sense.

It's a false equivalence. I'm not involuntarily celibate; it's, in fact, the very opposite. I have absolutely no interest in dating or fucking men. Women lose every single time they sit on a bare dick, be it their own pleasure to ending up as a single parent. And no, their marital status makes no difference. I have yet to meet one heterosexual mother who wasn't a single parent in reality.

FDS goes beyond dating. We aim to bring each other up, not tear each other down, while also spreading awareness about staying safe and listening to your intuition when something feels off about anyone or any situation. People who we date are essentially strangers and we don't know what these people are capable of.

On the other hand, the tenets of Incel philosophy are rooted firmly in hypocrisy and the glorification of sexual assault when they do not get what they want from a woman. They want a woman's attention, yet have a set expectation for a type who fits the mold in terms of perfect age, looks, and mannerisms, to name a few. They only see a warm body, therefore she needs to put out when a man gives her any kind of attention. Should they find said woman, they immediately jump to that she needs to give in to his advances because they are a man.

If they are successful in getting a woman to have sex on the first date, they tear down her body, performance, etc. When their "charms" do not yield results, the Incel man gets angry. The best thing a woman can do is make a swift exit before this man turns violent. When Incels educate their masses, they will tear down a woman who fit their ideal image, then go so far as to say that she deserves to be sexually assaulted. This is only a summary, although it is only a glimpse into what makes an Incel so dangerous.

We are voluncels not incels.

They've clearly never been to an actual incel website

Also FDS doesn't encourage men to shoot up schools unlike men in said forums

😂😂 I am middle aged and I wear a fake engagement ring so strange men will not talk to me (I am still waiting to become invisible like I was promised would happen after age 30)

It doesn't work as well as a covid mask does, but my point is that I don't think any of us have a problem getting sex if we want it.

I know FDS acknowledges femcels exist, but in my 5 decades of life I have never met a woman who couldn't get sex anytime she wants it.