Thoughts? Just don't believe in women making the first move. If he liked her enough he would have.

I've heard stories like this so many times. "I told him I have a crush on him and now we're married!" "I actually asked him out first!" There are also a few couples like that in my circle of friends and acquaintances. Good for them! I'm glad everything worked out and obviously there are exceptions.

BUT. I don't want to be the exception! I want to be the rule! I need to be the rule!! This is what ended up happening every time I made the first move: either those guys 1) politely turned me down (most of them) 2) accepted my advances, but it didn't last long because they actually weren't interested in me enough in the first place for the relationship to continue. He's Just Not That Into You is a great book about this subject.

FDS also doesn't support this for a reason. It just doesn't work. If you pursue a man and he goes along you risk attracting a hobosexual who'se leeching every ounce of energy and resources out of you. You will also screw up the power dynamic by making the first move: now you're the leader and the man is expecting you to do all the heavy lifting in the relationship. No thanks. If a man isn't pursuing you then how can you know he actually likes you and wants to be with you, instead for the sake of convenience? Also, guys WILL dump you if they're with you for convenience's sake and they meet their dream woman. I could go on and on.

Men are hunters. It's in their genes. Doesn't matter if it's 2024, it's just how it is. Men are pursuing, we are choosing. Simple as that.

I agree 100%. Also, there's a huge difference in flirting with men you find attractive in real life and letting them take the lead in asking you out and pursuing vs throwing yourself at a guy online who you've never met before and who's shown you zero interest and even ignored you at first. 🙃

There's numerous red flags with her story as it's giving Simone Biles and her husband. BUT she wants to be the woman who chases a man down, begs him to date her, and likes having an insecure, ugly bf. Like... it's clown behavior but some women love the circus. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Pickmes who don't respect themselves aren't my concern in 2024.

pickmes.

I like when men gently lead only after you've given them permission.

My ex proposed after we talked about it, and that's one of the things he did right - other than marrying me in general.

I would have also accepted us putting on rings together.

Public, unexpected proposals are crazy. I mean away for early proposals, and one thing I disagree with FDS on is forever girlfriend stuff.

If a man gives me a genuinely great relationship, the institution of marriage means nothing.

Second best is marrying a rich guy with a prenup, but my personal, optimal goal is no marriage because he's actually just monogamous with me and I'm able to grow with him.