How many women in your life who are pro trans movement?

Idc about their rights of biological males who want to cosplay as Women. They will never understand our struggles. NEVER.

I know a lot of women personally who are in support of it. It's definitely prevalent. But they're mostly in the big liberal cities that I moved out of, thankfully.

Basically all of them. West coast here.

None. And I’m happy with that. I hate troons, I hate anyone who invades my space and I’m the one who has to adapt to their delusion. Like you want to be included and feel like a woman but where is my right to privacy and comfort? They want protection from the trans phones but who is protecting me from them? Having some mentally sick dude enter where I’m changing?

Nobody gives a crap about real women as soon as these beasts are in the picture.

Thankfully, I don't know any women who are pro-trans however I do have one relative (gay male) who is pro-trans. He posts a lot of pro-lgbtq+ stuff on his social media which I just ignore but if he ever point blank asked me my opinion I would have no problem telling him.

I know quite a few pro-trans people (I live in a fairly liberal city), and I know a few people who are neutral or somewhat anti-trans, insofar as “people can do what they want as long as it isn’t negatively affecting other people.”

I used to be very pro-trans, as I am a part of the queer community and went to school with a couple of people who were transitioning (FTM). So I, in theory, supported trans people.

The longer this discourse has gone on, and the more I have observed how various trans people and allies advocate for themselves and carve out a space in society for themselves… I’m not sure I support what a lot of the trans community would like to be supported.

I’ve know one MTF person during their transition and I came to the conclusion that they had been really similar to what FlameThrower described in another comment here. Socially ostracized growing up, abuse in their family history, very mentally ill but not seeking actual help, just substituting spirituality and drugs and shooter video games, and YouTube videos, in place of therapy or psychiatry.

I cut ties with this person shortly after they vegan transitioning, which I’d been feeling the need to do anyway and which was only compounded by their behavior after “coming out as trans.” I came to realize that they had seriously abused my good friend, who was their former girlfriend. This also led me to realize that I had been abused in my former relationship, which I had not yet acknowledged (but that’s a whole different story). I had been blind to the abuse of my friend because I was being abused myself, and because I desperately wanted to maintain neutrality so I could stay friends with both parts of their couple after they split up. It’s one of my biggest regrets now though, that I didn’t immediately take her side.

And the grossest part of it all was about a year later, I came across her ex-bf’s new Facebook profile, as a more-transitioned MTF, and he had stolen her name to use as his own.

After all that, I just don’t have it in me to trust a MTF trans person, unless perhaps they started that process as a young child.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t support medical transition for children! I just mean that young kids know who they are, they know if they want to wear pants or dresses, or present as more feminine or masculine. They can’t help what they’re drawn to. I’m not against people presenting as whoever they feel they are. What I AM against, is people forcing their ideology on everyone and making other people unsafe with their actions and presence. I’m against trans women invading women’s spaces and acting like they belong because they’re “also real women.” Just make your own spaces for trans women if you need cismale-free spaces!

I definitely have come to feel that most men engaging in MTF behaviors are predatory and using it as an excuse to gain access to otherwise female spaces, and by proxy, access to women that they wouldn’t have had otherwise.

Men who want to present as femme… it’s fine, do your thing! But don’t pretend like that makes you the same as a person who has grown up through girlhood and beyond, because our struggles are NOT the same and a trans woman will never understand what it was like to be oppressed by patriarchy like we have been. They will never have to be afraid of losing their access to reproductive safety, or growing up being scared and hypervigilant due to the always-possible presence of violent men.

Truthfully I don’t really care whether trans people exist, or play sports, or whatever tf else. Just stay out of women-only spaces and make your own spaces, because we are not the same and it’s a disservice to everyone to pretend like we are.

None thankfully. My folks are old school. They don't play that.

I don't have any friends who are pro-trans either. We're all millennials and also don't play that.

One pickme who is also pro bdsm and hangs with the Asexual/agender crowd. Most others are quite neutral, live and let live. Only my best friend is openly a TERF.

Basically everyone I know is pro trans rights. Tbh I've become more conflicted about it when I learned one of my coworkers has a trans daughter (son). I'm childfree so I'm never having kids of my own, but how is a mother supposed to approach the situation if her son wants to be a girl? I honestly think it's mental illness and the kid probably needs therapy, but when you're a mother you're supposed to love and support your kids no matter what, right?

I'm genuinely curious how an FDS-aligned mother would handle it. This coworker is a friend of mine as well, so I obviously have to keep my opinions about it to myself.

In most academic and corporate workplaces in the U.S., everybody has to maintain a pro-trans or trans-tolerant facade in order to keep their job.

By federal law, you cannot discriminate against, harass, or make anything that can be construed as an anti-trans comment in the workplace. If you do, there is a good chance you will be reprimanded and/or fired. In some extreme cases, you can be sued.

If you are not pro-trans in the U.S., the best way to keep a white-collar job is to keep your mouth shut about LGBT issues.

Try asking women like Kris jenner who experienced it first hand. Honesty they can be very messy and selfish about it and sometimes they have a not so cute misogyny issue.

Also men who have severe hatred for their moms apparently become trans

Zero!