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I had a supervisor at a workplace who had sexually harassed me and other women for years, I didn't find FDS at the time so after 2 years I actually started hitting on him back, he took care of his appearance kinda, he was kinda overweight. (Trying to keep an open mind as they say) It's almost like taking care of his appearance was supposed to mask his fatness and emotionally abusive personality. Fat, rude, scared of water??? And smoked all day. He had a very goofy and cynical personality and that's kinda how I am.
He would literally sexually harass maybe 1-2 women a year, he'd be the one to write women up over pants or tell women to change them, he was disgusting.
The moment I started hitting on him he didn't like me anymore, I said I didn't want kids and that I can't have sex he just instantly stopped liking me and stopped treating me like a person.
I've been hung up on this for years now because he was so abusive and he made me feel like I was a freak when he couldn't use me for something, even though he was using women for sex and couldn't maintain a relationship for more than 3 months he still made me feel like the trash for being into him but not being "useful" to him. He literally said "You'll want kids one day, just shit them out and keep them off the pole, it's easy."
I don't think men should even want kids. They shouldn't have a say in our bodies at all or what life changing choices to make that literally don't effect them, they can just fuckin run any time they want and ruin so many peoples lives.
They literally baby-trap us and use us as surrogates for their own weird narcissistic fantasy of having "Mini mes" roaming the earth.
Not only did this experience solidify my view that men literally only exist to give sperm and die but they're running around trying to use us for this one thing, even if it costs them their jobs.
Men shouldn't "Want" kids. They should be socially conditioned to be able to take care of kids and suck it up if the woman wants em, because I honestly don't see babies crowning out of dick heads any time in the future. Men have been "Baby-trapping" women for millennia.
Them saying they want kids is something they could say in the bedroom as part of an intimate moment after the woman says she wants kids, they shouldn't be making it a fuckin political party and talking about how "they" want to control "our" bodies, like it's a fuckin cup of coffee or something.
They think having kids is easy because they're wholly expecting us to do allll the work. Which is why I say they shouldn't be allowed to want them. In fact it's a red flag if a guy tells me immediately that he wants kids and he's "envisioning me pregnant" that's fuckin gross. He's literally telling me he wants to ruin my life and watch me slave away for the offspring that has maybe 20-30% of his DNA so he can die happy (after molesting the daughter and beating the son of course.)
It took me literally a year to finally figure out that he was an inferior scum bag that needs to pass his line down before he perishes because his ego depends on it.
Men shouldn't want kids or have a say in abortion or childbirth, they should just suck it up with whatever they choose. I have literally been staying single because I'm terrified that I'm just going to become pregnant to some loser who can't support me. Even when I date women in my area they're all single mothers and the baby daddy is just "around" and they're always fuckin creepy around me...also I'm not a daddy-replacement. Especially when the child is a boy. Throw it in the fire, it'll be a rapist regardless of how much veggietales it consumes.
You may be thinking: then men will never be loyal because we never get their opinion. False! They were never loyal to begin with, they say they want kids to abuse them and tear you down, it doesn't matter what they say. I say they should all shut up about our bodies and just keep working at Walmart and eventually the trashy ones who want 5 kids and a bangmaid will be weeded out.
Childfree GenXer here, and every single time a man volunteered that he wanted kids, I got major ick. What I heard was that he wanted a woman who would be an intelligent pack mule, have no wants or needs, be submissive, adhere to all gender stereotypes that he could change on a whim to control her, and basically just be an NPC. Huge, hard pass without ever having to think about it. It's all about power, control, dominance. I know y'all are probably tired of hearing me say that, but it's the drug that men are most addicted to, and most aren't fully aware of it, they're so in-dick-trinated with toxic masculinity.
As a widow now, I'm up front again: no kids here by choice, damn sure don't want anyone else's. I use this as a test to see how that sits with men, some of whom are just salivating to dump off their children with any available woman and just go do whatever. Hugely problematic on so many levels.
Guy who wants to "pass his bloodline" ≠ Woman who wants a family.
Men should be holding fake babies and cleaning fake poop and playing "parent simulator games". Any man who wants a child is trying gain something from it, he shouldn't say that he wants a child after years and years of exploiting women and calling kids "icky" just last year. They shouldn't want kids at all unless they love you already and want kids with YOU my dude.
Also There's a thing called "pregnancy fetish". Imagine having to ruin someone's life just to get off? How sad.
I didn't cultivate this opinion over this one incident btw, I met pregnancy fetish dudes, diaper fetish dudes. From just normal life. They're all fuckin depraved, kill em with fire. I shit you not this guy said "I'd look better pregnant" like what? I think you mean "I'd look better uncomfortable and disempowered"
I believe breeding rights should be earned by men such as be financially independent, health on point mental health is good, and they need to be physically stronger than the manlets to defend his family. Bucks in the wild fight for breeding rights but any score or loser is allowed to get a woman pregnant. Scrote families were broke but still pressured the women they are with for a kid and they dont even want to raise them.
So based. That's their only biological function. The only thing the Y chromosome codes for is sperm related activity. Once you notice how desperate they are to make their particular Y strain survive, how obsessed with a "legacy" instead of the reality of taking care of a whole child they are... The way black men talk so much shit about blk women (especially when they cant get a white/latina/asian/indigenous woman to boost their ego & status) white men in general, any other race that wants to see themselves replicated and continued as if that mattered one single bit in the vastness of the universe, it all makes sense.
Nothing to add, but WOW, that guy you worked for sounds gross! I threw up in mouth at "I'm envisioning you pregnant" 🤢🤮
I think people (men AND women) who only want children conditionally make the best parents.
Let me explain, before you downvote:
I mean a man who says "I want children, but only if my wife wants them, too, and we are in the right position (financially, emotionally, regarding housing, health, finances etc. etc.) to give them the best life possible. I do not want children if any of that is not the case because it would be unfair to have them knowing we cannot decently provide for them in all these ways.."
That's a person who puts their own wishes and instinct to procreate behind the needs of the potential children even if it means never having children despite wanting them.
Baby-trapping doesn't benefit anyone, IMO. Neither the scrotes nor the mom nor the baby.
"Especially when the child is a boy. Throw it in the fire, it'll be a rapist regardless of how much veggietales it consumes."
You lost me here. A male baby is not at fault for the patriarchy. Yes, they will likely grow up to support and benefit from the patriarchy, but that's after they are socialized by both men and women. I'd rather throw all our degenerating male politicians and corporate CEOs into the fire instead.