Just splitting the cost of groceries benefits men to the detriment of women. Who eats more? Who eats all the snacks leaving none for her? Who does the cooking? In 50/50 the women subsidize men’s lifestyles.
Lol thx for unlocking a long buried memory of my ex standing over the sink shoveling an entire carton of ice cream (that I bought and drove home in MY car since he didnt have one) in his face while gleefully telling me how much he loves ice cream and was going to eat the entire tub.
Filled with resentment and disgust, I said, "you know, I would like to have some too"
K. I have this friend that is frankly, awesome. She's got a great career, works hard to keep her body in shape, does therapy, everything. She also agrees with many of my ideas and calls herself a feminist...except for men paying for dates. She does not want to accept monetary anything or even acts of kindness to show hes paying attention to her. Is this a confidence thing? I really want to get her onto FDS but she's super stubborn about her ideas and I'm not sure if it's because she thinks she's undeserving or what
I argued that her thinking she owes men swx for dinner is backward logic and her pussy isn't freee. I can't understand her logic. Help?
I don't understand how women think not letting the guy pay is gonna prevent him from thinking you "owe" him. Like sis, if he's a shitty dude, he's gonna think you owe him anyway.
I used to be like this and for me, it was related to my sense of control, power, and autonomy. I did not want to feel in debt to men and I wanted to demonstrate my maturity/responsibility and ability to "hold my own." I thought I was communicating that I didn't need men and could leave them (so value me!), but the reality was that I attracted loser men who were looking for sugar mommies. And then ended up with one, who is now trying to get alimony in our divorce because at 40 years old he still doesn't work/earn enough to pay his own bills.
The reality is that men don't value women unless they are demonstrating it through their labor, which translates to paying for dinner, favors, etc. Men show their values through their wallet. A man who will pay hundreds for video games, cars, sports, personal hobbies etc but expects 50/50 on dates is showing that he cares more about himself than his future partner. He needs to be willing to give 100% of himself or else he just isn't husband material. I wish I knew how to get my younger self to understand but I don't know if logic really works here. We want to believe men are like us and they're just not. It takes a lot of difficult experiences with men to really get it.
Men: I don’t want to pay and where’s my free sex?
Women: that’s unreasonable.
Men: women are too picky.
Also this
Just splitting the cost of groceries benefits men to the detriment of women. Who eats more? Who eats all the snacks leaving none for her? Who does the cooking? In 50/50 the women subsidize men’s lifestyles.
Totally agree!
Men paying used to be the norm...
K. I have this friend that is frankly, awesome. She's got a great career, works hard to keep her body in shape, does therapy, everything. She also agrees with many of my ideas and calls herself a feminist...except for men paying for dates. She does not want to accept monetary anything or even acts of kindness to show hes paying attention to her. Is this a confidence thing? I really want to get her onto FDS but she's super stubborn about her ideas and I'm not sure if it's because she thinks she's undeserving or what
I argued that her thinking she owes men swx for dinner is backward logic and her pussy isn't freee. I can't understand her logic. Help?
I hate that women get labeled "greedy" for demanding equity and not settling. Pick-mes are the worst with this