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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K_JB6XhNya8&t=709s
Do you all think that the "Fat Acceptance Community" has gone too far? We see it all the time now that you can be healthy at every size. Personally, I don't belive that. I found this video from Blair White. Yes, you should be comfortable in your body, but let's not pretend that being obese/morbidly obese is healthy because eventually it does catch up to you. I'm overweight for a couple of years and had my gallbladder removed in January. I've lost some weight, but I still have a way to go.
What do you all think?
Without watching the video, I’d say they’ve gone too far. I’ve been following lots of fat positive people for a few years now because I’m just shocked at the things they claim.
You would think it would be a wake up call now that a few of these fat activists have died young and have died of obesity related illnesses BUT this group doesn't think obesity makes you ill. They never even talk about the ones that have passed away recently because it ruins their world view.
This movement seems to be a bunch of fat pick me’s who say things like “examine your preferences“ “if fat people aren’t attractive to you , you’re fat phobic”
I assume it’s low self esteem because I’m sure men treat them badly but you’re not owed a date with anyone.
I don’t understand how they can operate on social media. They spread harmful ideas and promote binge eating but anything that is pro Ana get banned because they promote eating disorders as well. Both group shouldn’t be allowed in my opinion.
If anyone thinks I’m being harsh, I’m really not. I used to be fatter (I’m still over weight) but have lost around 50lbs. So I understand that it’s hard to make changes but you will NEVER get anywhere with their mindset. Also if any of them attempt to lose weight they’re kicked out of that “inclusive” group. How are these good people?
I have a pretty neutral view on this that doesn't stray too far off on either sides of this debate. Understandably, being overweight or obese or even just simply out of shape can propose a host of health issues that should never be glossed over just because it might hurt some people's feelings. Health is a very serious thing to look after, and the simplest ways to manage one's weight is eating healthily and moderately and move their body in a way that feels good and is sustainable for the long-term, whatever that looks like.
However, I don't believe that people who aren't slim deserve to be mocked or abused outright just for the way they look. And let's not forget the hostile misogyny that "fat" women face, or even that the weight loss industry is full of bullshit that doesn't really care about our female health more than just to grab our money, as well as to push an insane idea that if you are bigger than a dress size 0-2 or weigh more than 120 lbs, you're a worthless woman. There are young girls starving themselves because they think this will make them beautiful or worth getting to know by their peers, and this is a huge issue.
Not to mention the devastating issues revolving food here in the United States. We have food deserts especially in rural and urban low-income areas where fresh produce is scarce or too expensive for an average family of four who don't make enough money. We have chemicals in our foods that renders it as extremely dangerous according to other countries' standards. There's corporate giants who control our food and try to punish farmers who are against their practices. Most average Americans who are very overweight tend to also belong to impoverished areas that don't care for their health, and keep shoving them cheap, calorie-dense, yet nutritionally-empty foods because that's all that's available to them. Many public schools do not have the funds to help teach children about healthy eating, and let's not talk about the Reagan years when he decided to defund healthy meals being served in the cafeterias. Of course, we shouldn't also push the HAES approach, neither, because at the end of the day, the healthiest weight range for everyone is when they're not overweight, not underweight, but in the middle of those two extremes, based on their height, sex, activity level, and so forth.
Blair White is a man.
Women's bodies are designed to store fat in case we get pregnant whether we want to get pregnant or not. Obviously it's not healthy to be morbidly obese hence the word morbidly. But I'm not going to let some man that hasn't gone to med school tell me what my body is supposed to look like.
I don't use tiktok or social media primarily because I don't like that negative and fake images are constantly being thrown in my face. I believe mental health is just as important as physical health. If someone is overweight, then yes there are threats to their physical health. But I think it's a very personal decision on whether or not losing weight will benefit them in the grand scheme of things if they are only doing it out of societal pressure and expectations to have a certain body type (an outlook detrimental to mental health). Honestly I think people should mind their own business. I personally like to eat healthy and stay active because that's what makes me feel good, but who am I to judge if being a couch potato and eating junk food is what makes someone else feel good? Not my problem 🤷🏼♀
I used to hear so much bs on sm, "love your body", ect but let's not pretend that being overweigh is healthy. For me the only acceptable "accept yourself" is if you were born a girl/boy but you wished to be the other gender.. you can't, you just have to accept it or if you have a condition that can't be helped, that's it.
I have some formerly fat-positive friends who went for YEARS loudly scolding people online for not praising "curves" enough. Simple acceptance was not enough; they wanted strong validation. Fast-forward to today. when they are middle aged or older and are facing some serious health issues. One of them has been so sedentary that she can't even walk now. Suddenly there is no more talk about Rubenesque beauty, etc. I feel very sorry for them, but at the same time I low-key wish they could get online and publicly retract their former opinions. I don't know how much damage they actually did to other people by pushing this false narrative. They sure did damage themselves -- probably irreparably. They can adjust their eating, they can lose some weight, but some of the mechanical and endocrine changes are past fixing.
There are good reasons for the fat positivity movement. Obesity is often a socioeconomic issue and is increasingly considered to be a disease. Fat people also face discrimination in healthcare and other settings where their legitimate concerns are dismissed when they’re told to lose weight first before the doctor will consider actual medicine.
As long as it isn’t negatively effecting their health and well-being, being a bit fat is fine.
Blaire is a mentally ill dude, safe to ignore.
THAT SAID, fat acceptance is very sus. Its unhealthy, but its wrong to shame people about it. You dont shame people with an illness, and it really is an illneas.
The problem is ill people who think their illness is normal or dont think anything is wrong. There is some parallels with trans, I guess. Its people who are sick, dont want to admit it, so dont know their own limits. So with an overinflated ego, they hit a wall and suddenly the wall ia the bad guy
If you are gonna stay fat, own it. Dont pretend you can hike Everest or be considered a great beauty, and if you are ok with the limits, then fine. Its thinking you are just as healthly as a gym rat where the real problem arrises.
I have a gf who annoys me with body positivity crap. I am overweight and I know it. 5'6, 200 lbs. And when I say anything about my weight and how I want to get back into shape.( I've been HWP my entire life. This fatness is new for me.) She'll say something annoying like, "Girl! You are beautiful just the way you are!" On the face of it, it sounds nice. But it's toxic positivity. Because I know for a fact that if her 130lbs frame suddenly jumped to 200 she wouldn't be telling herself that she's "beautiful just the way she is". She'd be extremely upset and probably suicidal. But it's ok if her friends are fat. Real friends would validate them if asked, would encourage a work out and nutrition plan.
What does this have to do with fds?
I have some friends and relatives who have complained loudly that "doctors don't listen to us" which I think is very often true for female patients of all shapes and sizes -- BUT, when a doctor says that your health problems could be largely ameliorated by weight loss, it is very often true, and to completely disregard this because you want a different answer is just not doing yourself any favors.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/apr/08/theres-a-real-bias-what-do-we-know-about-anti-obesity-drugs-in-australia?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other