I would. I’d be even more inclined to believe her if she posted here than on social media because this forum is anonymous. What would she have to gain by lying about her experiences here?
If a woman posts on this forum about a traumatic experience, I would assume she is reaching out for support. Maybe she hasn’t been able to find it anywhere else.
This is not Reddit, where we “wELl aKshUalLy” victims. We do not play devil’s advocate here. This is a place for female empowerment.
A woman posted on here about the trauma of having her child taken from her by a broken, patriarchal court system. She was clearly in distress, not only from the event itself, but from not being believed when she shared her truth. She should have been met with support and compassion here- because, after all, we are FEMALES. Compassion and support are our natural response.
Instead, she was met with broad extrapolations- posters speculating about terrible things that she he had done to deserve this, name-calling, and just plain old disdain.
One poster called her a “natalist”. Listen to me: we are MOTHERS. You don’t get to call us “natalists” any more than transgenders get to call us “uterus havers”.
It is clear that mother hatred has reached an all-time high on this forum, and it is disgusting. Mothers are not on here posting about motherhood being the best choice. We do not rag on childless women. I think we would all agree that the choice to remain childless is entirely up to the individual, and should be respected.
But if you are secure in choice you would not constantly be posting about it. You would not feel the need to berate others who choose differently.
So, as a mother, I’d like to say to those behaving badly in that other post:
Go take a time out and think about what you did. And come back and apologize to that woman who did NOTHING, absolutely nothing to warrant that kind of disrespect.
I agree about the anti-mother/anti-kid sentiments I've seen here recently. It's really been pissing me off.
I don't even want my own kids. For logical reasons, sure, but mostly because I never had the desire to. And it's gonna make my life a whole lot easier in so many ways than if that were a desire I did have.
Women start at a pretty high baseline of respect from me, but mothers even more so. Y'all are so brave, not just to go through pregnancy and labor, and trust a man enough to do it with him, but to sign up to wear your heart outside your body for the rest of your life like that. Mad respect. You guys are badass.
And it pisses me off that people on this forum try to say that every mother has been trapped in some patriarchal slavery yatta yatta, when some women really just want kids, and are brave enough to do it, even given the risks.
I agree in general with your post. The specific post you're referencing [regarding the mother who asked for advice about her daughter who threatened to kill her, right?] was a little strange and threw up several red flags. However, the bizarre nature of her post doesn't justify the anti-natalist tirades by some commenters, of course.
I commented with advice I would give her if she were my client, which I believed to be reasonable, not mean. I told her that she is attributing to her daughter capacities and an understanding that is far beyond the typical 9-year-old, which may explain why their relationship is so sour (in addition to whatever information the ex is feeding the daughter). She had remarked in her post that she doesn't see why her daughter doesn't "get" the brainwashing strategy of her abusive ex and the whole situation, which is weird because, again, the daughter is a 9-year-old CHILD.
So, I don't think the issue is not believing her. I took her at her word and her words suggest both she and her ex are harming their child in different ways and, as a result, not allowing the child to just have a normal childhood. They have placed her in the middle of their unresolved explosive drama.
This brings me to the main point of what I wanted to say: yes, I always believe women when they claim they have been assaulted (sexually or otherwise) though I am acquainted who some women who have definitely lied, so I know there's always a chance they could be falsifying information. We're humans and humans lie sometimes. BUT if a woman is telling me she is going into bad situations and raped in those situations, I think it's okay to believe her while also suggesting she stop putting herself into those situations.
Being raped is not the same as putting your child in harm's way. Most women don't lie about rape. Most abusers do tend to lie about how they treat their kids.
Like, the answer to your question is no. If someone tells the truth about one thing, that does not mean they also tell tell the truth about other things.
Also you don't even know if anyone posting here actually is a woman. This site is full of bullcrap spam and men.
It was a post with red flags and there were comments with red flags. This post as a follow on from that also has red flags.
We're not here as a rent a mob for whatever culture war is working its way across the internet this week, we're not here as an unquestioning audience for anyone who wants to dump their emotions somewhere, and at our core we are not here to perform pick me feminism that cheers on all women regardless of what they're saying.
I think this forum is really important but damn some of you need to log off and touch some grass.
I believe the woman always, as someone who has been perved on by a pedophile uncle being told that you are a liar and that he would never do that is more shocking and painful than the unpleasant experience.
I would not believe a stranger aka a person I'm not friends with right away if she talks about it with her huge following or accuses a celebrity unless there is evidence but if she does it on an anonymous site without dropping names then why should you not believe her?
I didn't read the post that you are talking about because I'm not a mother and I didn't think I could give her proper advise but dang I can't believe women would go there and call her names.
As for the frankenstein transvestites, being called Uterus havers by them is horrible because these creatures are men, And I hate these beasts, I'm a true terf.
We're not females, we're women.
Every forum I believe women. I would need irrefutable PROOF it didn't happen, and even then, I would doubt the proof over doubting a woman.
We have everything to lose and nothing to gain by lying about this. The only plausible explanation is she doesn't have enough memory (drugged or badly traumatized), enough evidence, or both so she is disbelieved and counted as "false."
I cannot come up with any other logical explanation for not believing a woman. Happy to be shown otherwise, but only on this forum since it will be logical and in good faith, of course :)
Yeah I would believe her. The statistics for women having experienced being raped is so high that its statistically very likely to be true unfortunately
A Natalist is someone who assigns a positive value to birth and an antinatalist is someone who assigns a negative value to birth. It has nothing to do with gender. You can also be child-free and be a Natalist.
Look words up before you use them. And yes, abusers need to be called out. There was no anti motherhood sentiment just a anti abuse sentiment which was clearly done to the child. The child is damaged beyond repair.
You got a little bit of push back and can’t even handle it. You really want to be viewed as a saint for pushing out a child. My dog pushed out a child as well. You guys aren’t special. Stop being a damn victim while playing the motherhood card. I don’t feel sorry for adults.
The woman in the post was very self centered and you cannot keep kissing someone’s ass just for having pushed out a child.
If you want to have children, be sure to be able to take care of them en to meet ALL OF THEIR NEEDS. This includes a normal “baby-daddy” and a normal income level
Don’t get children just because you have no other goals in life than motherhood and you can’t deal with the loneliness or because you “want something for yourself”. It’s an actual human you bring into this world and the child from the woman that posted that cry story, making herself the main character, is suffering beyond belief. You all are selfish and I don’t respect people who do this. Both men and women.
We hold a pretty high standard for men that turn their back on a women when getting her pregnant. And we should. These men should get forced vasectomies. But the same goes for the women keeping their damn child while not being able to feed it or protect it from harm in any way. For some reason it is so normalised to just blindly reproduce, and I don’t understand why.
Read into antinatalism before writing stuff about it. It’s not about motherhood. It comes from the Buddhist believe of refusing to add suffering in this world or doing things to other life forms without consent. This include creating life and leaving it to rot. From that logic comes antinatalism.
Some are antinatalist because of environmental concerns. A natural way of humanity to reduce is to not procreate and thus giving the earth back to nature.
You made an attempt to demonize something you don’t understand while accusing critical thinkers to do that to mothers.
What other post are you referring to?
Why are you lowering the bar by even asking this question?
"You're not a stupid, dumb s***, are you? I'm not."
Weird post.