How old were you when you realized most men don’t like women, they’re just sexually attracted to women?

Mid-twenties. But I realised that a lot of men aren't even sexually attracted to women, they just want to use us as sex toys. Think about how many men hate vaginas, women's body hair, etc. And they don't like it when women actually enjoy sex. I thought I was asexual before that age, and a few men were interested in sleeping with me. But once I started wanting sex and seeking my own pleasure, it turned most men off. I'm 30 now and I feel sad looking back on my mid-twenties self. I unashamedly flirted and sent my boyfriends messages about my sexual desires, and most of the time they just responded in a lukewarm way. Because I openly loved my body and its capacity for pleasure, and they resented me for that.

Not going to talk about the memories because they are very painful.

i was around 29-30 when i realized men hate women. like, all of them. i don't know if that innate or learned. all i know is they hate us. they like what we give them, how we make them feel, the benefits of having women in their lives, they like having sex with us (the perverted degrading sex, that is - not the kind that involves true female pleasure and mutual satisfaction). but they do NOT like us.

it has affected my interactions with men in such a way that i can see when they are nice to me because they are interested, how they flip their 'niceness' to indifference after losing interest, how they'll endlessly talk to me about their struggles because they think i'm free therapy... i find most of them insufferable. i wish i could live in a world where i can choose if and when to have men around. i cannot stand them. but i endure because i have no choice. as for my personal life, there is absolutely no space for them. i have one male friend to whom i talk to every once in a while. he's the only exception, and i don't exactly hold him in high regards. to me, men are guilty until proven innocent.

Yes, the wanting sex when I didn’t, and the disgust when I did. I was over 40 when I realized the men closest to me hated me.

I've always known. You remember that "girls have cooties" phase in Kindergarten? I've rarely seen men grow out of that phase. Even once they hit puberty and start wanting women around all the time, they still degrade us and befriend men over us.

It’s ironic - I was raised to never think about how men view women - never to observe whether men hate or love women. I was socialized to ensure that I am pleasing to men.

I’d never heard a statement like “men hate women,” until I found FDS (and other good feminist resources) several years ago. I had never scrutinized men. I always had suspicions, and always felt men were dangerous, but my doubts (if spoken) were shut down hard.

You can imagine the horrible ways I allowed myself to be treated, the abusive relationships I was in, the terrible behavior I put up with.

Now I’m wiser. I’m 52. And damn it’s GOOD.

I have become a separatist. My goal is to buy a private island and allow no men, ever. Only women.

I avoid men. I’ve met 3 HV men in my entire life, which is about .01%. So, being far away from men sounds like heaven!

Late 20s, post-break-up, relationship lasted about 6 years.

He just didn’t listen. Like he didn’t hear me. I spent years believing my “communication” was the problem. It wasn’t. He just didn’t care about what I was saying.

At the time of break up, he was distraught, desolate, and devastated. Not because he was losing me, exactly, but because he would have to start over.

He got used to me doing all the housework and financially contributing. I literally felt like a house appliance. We were hardly ever even intimate. He just wanted to play video games.

After that the veil started to lift. I noticed other people’s relationships were a similar dynamic.

Then I met men who really, truly fell in love with me. Except “in love”, to those men, meant controlling and possessive behavior. Assertions of what they expected of me if they “allowed” me to do something I wanted to do.

Not sure who the fuck they thought they were talking to, but they found out.

I do like men, don’t get me wrong. I just haven’t yet met one that is tolerable for long lengths of time.

6, then 11, then 15, then 19, then a HUUUUGE moment of denial, then 25.

Different waves for different realizations.

About a year ago (33)

There's a spectrum for sure

But for the most part they just want a sex appliance that cleans, plans things, and follow them around while they do their hobbies

I think I’ve always known, but I didn’t realize how many men are that way until I had a HV male friend tell me that all men would be rapists and murders without laws, even he is only a good person because of social order. He’s not better because of some intrinsic sense of right and wrong he’s better because he cares more about the consequences and his reputation.

25ish I think? But ceasing my pikme ways was a long and painful process.

Men aren't really sexually attracted to women. The number of men I read about online and in person who would be willing to date their male friends is enough to believe that all men are willing to sleep with each other. It seems, by default, men are men-loving. Women are not like this with other women.

The majority of women who say they like other women really don’t, because when they get to the more intimate parts of a woman, they can’t do it. Their dick fixation makes it hard for them to believe they could find pleasure in being with another woman. On the other hand, men are so obsessed with their own dicks that sucking another guy’s dick is more rewarding to them than a vagina, because vaginas aren’t seen as powerful in society as a dick.

Women who now call themselves "lesbians" but are dating transsexuals with a dick and a pair of fake boobs are doing so because the dick fixation has been so ingrained in them that they prefer this over being with a real woman. This is the new "lesbians"—they aren’t lesbians. They’re straight women with a fetish for men with fake boobs and a dick.

Notice how people love to say "what a pussy!" as an insult. Even women do this too. When a guy does something horrible, he’s called a "dick"—never an "asshole" or some other insult. A dick is not seen as an insult. Just go on any forum online where a male has done something horrible, and you’ll see the comments calling him a "dick.

Why do we keep birthing them? Oh right, if I say something like this, some women on FDS will get triggered. If we can't speak freely about men completely on here, then what's the point?

Any foolish woman who comes on here promoting women to engage in polyamory, FWB, or hookups is trash and mentally unstable. Keep this in mind always if you're going to date men.

All the way until 42 and after 3 kids! 💔💔💔

I was in my late 20s/early 30s when I had this realization--far too late, in my opinion.

I was 12.