Check out this post on ovarit. It's very intriguing. It exposes prior allegations of sexual harassment made against Lundy Bancroft by some of the women he was supposed to help.
I've recently heard people say the same about him abusing women. But thanks for sharing this enlightening thread. I didn't know the details of it. His book still stands though in terms of the information he relayed in it.
Well now I can rest easy knowing that yes, it is all men.
Jokes aside I'm also mad but I'm really not surprised, I literally had this thought while reading his books and I was like "So when's he going to assault someone?".
I'm always wary of men who have been abused or witnessed serious trauma. I hope this isn't true but I'll always believe women.
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Aug 30, 2023
Respectfully, something sounds...off with this story. I'll keep an open mind, but this seems like unsubstantiated rumors and stigmatized. It's possible that men are manufacturing this to discredit him. IDK
I hate to say I agree. On the one hand, I always believe women, and yes, I'd believe this too if it's true. But a part of me raises an eyebrow that the sources are uncredited quotes and stories from an online forum. I think it warrants someone to investigate Lundy and I will absolutely belive it if it's all verified, but we have to consider that anyone can write anything on online forums.
It is always a mistake to make a male who's telling you truth about other males into your hero. How do they know all of this information about the narcissistic nature of the male? Because they're male. I'll give you 2 other examples...Derrick Jackson and Dr. Sam Vaknin. Both are narcissists who give great advice, but you should never expect a male to go against his nature just because he's telling the truth in a book or lecture. You do not truly know him until you live with him, and even then, there have been serial killers who were married and fooled everyone.
Wow, truly NONE of them can be trusted. I'm so disappointed, but not surprised.
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Aug 28, 2023
Not all accusations are true.
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Aug 28, 2023
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I think both can be true at the same time, for whatever it's worth. If he did commit acts against women, his book still could be life-saving for us! Though, of course, I won't look at him the same way.
Got to say, I like how you worded your response. Rare to see an example of FDS woman energy as described in the handbook, when responding to something, without being rude/disrespectful. My own musing (unrelated to the post).
Sure, but the allegations in this case are quite vague and hard to track down, and these questionable retreats are not happening anymore. It's not a clear-cut case at all. However, since I never glorified the man for his personality, there is no reason to believe he is a saint either. The fact is he wrote a very useful book, that's all I ever knew and all I needed to know.
It reads like he has developed some sort of savior complex now. Sad. Men are always so full of themselves.
I've recently heard people say the same about him abusing women. But thanks for sharing this enlightening thread. I didn't know the details of it. His book still stands though in terms of the information he relayed in it.
It's really starting to look like it is ALL men..
Well now I can rest easy knowing that yes, it is all men.
Jokes aside I'm also mad but I'm really not surprised, I literally had this thought while reading his books and I was like "So when's he going to assault someone?".
I'm always wary of men who have been abused or witnessed serious trauma. I hope this isn't true but I'll always believe women.
Respectfully, something sounds...off with this story. I'll keep an open mind, but this seems like unsubstantiated rumors and stigmatized. It's possible that men are manufacturing this to discredit him. IDK
I borrowed the audiobook from the library. It's 14 hours and I'm 12 hours in. Glad I didn't buy it. The information though is truly life-changing.
It is always a mistake to make a male who's telling you truth about other males into your hero. How do they know all of this information about the narcissistic nature of the male? Because they're male. I'll give you 2 other examples...Derrick Jackson and Dr. Sam Vaknin. Both are narcissists who give great advice, but you should never expect a male to go against his nature just because he's telling the truth in a book or lecture. You do not truly know him until you live with him, and even then, there have been serial killers who were married and fooled everyone.
Now I don't want to read the book anymore 🥲
Wow, truly NONE of them can be trusted. I'm so disappointed, but not surprised.
Not all accusations are true.