Incels are usually clingy wannabe momma's boys, according to one of the first studies into the hate group.

I think all of the findings are correct, and the only thing we should be doing differently is not draw any additional conclusions from this, like “ if he’s anxious/depressed, he’s a vulnerable being that needs a hug”, which you’d do for a woman. Men can have various struggles that women have, and instead of becoming more compassionate through their suffering, for example, they can become more dangerous and more violent.

I was reading a post the other day on our favourite (s) website, where a young mental health worker was asking for guidance about her first job. It was for a mental health service, where the previous worker just mysteriously up and left (or so she’s told), and she’s taken all of her caseload, that seems to be all male (it’s not a male-specific service), and discovered that some of the time she’s in the building alone with them in the evenings. She said that made her uncomfortable and she was wondering how to address it with management.

The thread is supposedly for people in that industry, and surprisingly (or unsurprisingly) they all piled onto the only person that told her to listen to her gut instinct, and that stats don’t lie.

Male MH workers used their fancy albeit angry language to put both of them down and screeching “male stigmaaaa”, even putting destigmatising men MH patients as violent before female worker‘s right to not be m*rdered. Female commentators were more supportive, suggesting various ways to stay safe and ask for another staff member to be present in the building, but still suggesting she “resolves her fear of men in supervision/therapy”. Really, really disgusting. And when something awful happens, I guess this female worker just up and leaves, like her predecessor.

Why is it when a guy suffers from depression, anxiety, and fear of rejection it's "poor him" and all these studies are made to alleviate the problem, but when a woman suffers from the same thing it's "too bad because a woman is only valuable if she's confident, beautiful, and a social prowess" and tough luck?

I’m not even bothered with men. I always say that small things predict the future. If you can’t rely on him for the small things then you can’t rely on him to take responsibility. When he invites you for a family dinner for example, and he’s being stingy, he’s deciding how much you should take, he’s clumsy and not serve you or eat like a gentleman then you already know enough. Having dinner with a man with him as the host is the best vetting system ever. If you feel you are not served as good as you expected then you have a small fraction of the future that awaits you, a self centred man-child.

Find all the excuses you want for losers to be losers. Nothing changes the fact that they need to open their eyes, ears, mind and work on themselves bigtime and for a long time to actually see even a miniscule of positive result. Unlike movies where you just need to remove the girl's glasses for her to suddenly get a makeover with a new personality, in reality, women actually put in serious work to reach that goal. So these "poor men" just need to pull up their socks and put in efforts.

Its not that deep. Its porn addiction. Simple as. My porn addicted ex became a mra after 15yrs of addiction. 🤷

Of course they’re blaming it on the parents … again. It’s always “poor man, he’s an only a monster because his mommy didn’t love him enough” and never “he was an asshat his parents avoided at all costs”.

I have sons and I’m sorry to say some men are just born with entitled misogyny in their veins and never grow out of the toddler “memememe” stage —no amount of nurture can undo it. Sometimes your kid is just an ass. Everyone will blame it on the mother, but she knows the truth. She has the son who criticizes every meal she cooks, yells at her every day, and physically harms her when she says no (and I mean starting at 5 yrs old). There is no help or resources for mothers in this situation. You have an abuser you can’t kick out until they’re an adult. Sometimes I believe it’s genetic.

The mother either becomes a pickme giving in to the son’s every demand to avoid his abuse wherein he’ll paint her as a saint (but will still hate all women because he doesn’t respect them because she gave in to him all the time) or she asserts firm boundaries on a daily basis to protect herself and he paints her as an evil villain who was mean to him and hated him and he’ll go into adult assuming all women hate him. You can’t win as a woman or as a parent.

Most men see women as mothers, not people, and women should view most men as parasites looking for a mommy. A man who couldn’t form a healthy attachment to his own mom as a child will be unable to form any healthy attachments with women as an adult. These men are unable to face the hard truth that they are simply unlovable.

This rings very true for me- my brother (not officially an incel just mysoginistic) is oddly clingy to my mom. Which is weird bc my mom wasn't neglectful, and encouraged us to be independent. I do think part of what goes into someone's attachment is their innate personality. I think men who tend to be clingy (who aren't redirected to constructive pro-social achievements and social skills) end up stewing. And tbh I don't know how (and have no desire to figure out) how to relate to socially inept men. Raising well socialized boys is the only thing I can be fussed w atm- and I'm all for corporeal punishment for misbehaving boys.

They are trying to put blame on the emotional problems but as you said many fakecels who have had relationships and ended terribly, this didn't happen because of emotional trauma but because of their attitudes towards women. Incel or not, so many men have hatred towards women and a lot of them didn't have any emotional issues. I have met many men who have had bad childhood but didn't justify that to hate women or have any beef with women. I think its the problem of attitudes, patriarchy and childhood education. Incels are the ones who have just mobilised online.

Frankly I could give two fucks about the reason behind those losers being such losers. Because well all know that if those SAME symptoms where to exist in women, women would NOT act that way! Women wouldn't go around killing, mass shooting and acid attacking for being rejected, even tho women are supposedly known as the em0TioNaL gender, yet we don't do an ounce of the shit these defected Y chromosome incels are doing!! In the end it all stems from male entitlment to women's bodies, time, attention and identity. It's also a form of male resistance as a reaction to women gaining more power after years of being subjugated under male oppression. Instead of studying these misogynistic hate groups they should focus on shutting them down!! They are literally terroristic groups spreading hate and violence against women, causing all these crimes and mass shootings to happen! They are the new KKK at this point!