Trans "women" are NOT real women. They are failed males in dresses appropriating womanhood and encroaching female spaces and stealing female hard earned labor, rights and trophies!! Just like the entitled privileged males that they are.
Putting on a wig and a dress doesn't erase their male conditioning, male privilege or their male strength, and it definitely won't erase centuries of female oppression!
We are NOT "Cis" women, we are WOMEN.
Full fucking stop.
We are not the ones changing and mutilating ourselves to adapt to their mental illness. This stupid prefix is pretty fucking offensive, and no sane woman who respects herself would refer to herself with such prefix.
These woman-wannabe fuckers should respect what they imitate and know their fucking place, but they won't..thus they don't deserve my respect nor my support.
Okay. Here's the thing. I do not have a problem with trans people presenting or living most of their lives as another gender. I don't have a problem with a biological male deciding to live as a woman in presentation and whatnot. However - we are not the same and that trans woman is NOT the same as a biological, XX woman. Full stop. Hormonally we aren't the same, cognitively we aren't even the same. We weren't socialized the same as children, and we don't experience the same amount of societal pressures and norms. If I present as a man tomorrow and state myself to be a man, does that suddenly erase my chromosomes, my upbringing and socialization, and the shit I've experienced as a woman? Does a man who does this suddenly get to decide his privileges are nothing because he's "trans"? Come on. That's why if I am referring to a trans person, I never just say man or woman, I say "trans woman" or "trans man". Because we are not the fucking same.
If this makes me a TERF then I guess I'm a TERF because humanity has bigger things to worry about. Civilization collapse, ecological collapse, and maybe species collapse is imminent and yet these people are going to police my language? Nah. Fuck that.
Agreed. I think the patriarchy is responsible for sex and gender based oppression. While the two groups are pitted against each other they aren't working on dismantling the system that disadvantaged them
Male transvestites are men. They're not a "different group", and are only "pitted against" women insofar as men pit themselves against us.
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Jan 15, 2023
I'm conflicted on this because I feel sympathy for non conforming gender people. Trans women and men get a lot of hate. It can't be easy if you feel better living as the other sex. But these trans activists are truly horrifying. Cancelling and attacking anyone who disagrees. If you disagree you are dangerous and want trans people to die. Nobody is calling them out but the TERFs are okay to harass and threaten.It's all just fucking horrifying.Transmen are transmen and transwomen are transwomen. If this was about equality and rights that would be enough. It's not enough for them. They force women to comply or be completely cancelled.I see people blindy supporting this movement as uneducated and cowardly. They are going with the flow and what's popular now. Only a few brave souls dear speak against this new culty movement.Trans rights are not women's rights because we are oppressed BECAUSE of our BIOLOGY.
I’m also bisexual so I completely relate on empathizing with the queer community, but at the same time - feeling like sometimes the “activism” is taken too far.
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Jan 15, 2023
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Sometimes? DDLG - playing a pedophiliac is okay. No kink shaming. J.K Rowling supporting women only spaces and saying biology is important - The worst human alive.
More trans people need to speak out about this because they are making sympathic people, like me, completely detest their whole movement.
I think the trans rights are women's rights thing isn't meant to be taken literally like that. The premise of X rights are Y rights (although the Y here usually is "human") is that any oppression being allowed to slip through the cracks in social solidarity built on human decency will allow other oppression to come with it.
So I might not personally care about a particular cause, but in day-to-day life I am obligated to use normal privilege to combat bias.
That having been said, you're absolutely right. Trans activists have to fight governments tooth and nail sometimes, but that level of vigor is misapplied for random strangers on the internet kind of often, and does lack nuance for certain issues, like in this post.
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Jan 15, 2023
There are simply too few opportunities for women, so we might as well hand over the last of our measly crumbs to men... What the fuck, no.
Men aren't women. Women say no. Be unkind to males who dont take "no" for an answer. Give me one good reason why I should respect ladymen. Nah, I didnt think so.
Man drags are NOT women. They will never be women. In a thousand years when archeologists dig up their skeletons, they'll still be men albeit with lots of scratches and grinding marks on their skulls from trying to get rid of their man skulls.
The archeologists will be like, "Oh, how sad, another victim of the gender craze of the 2010's."
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Jan 15, 2023
Autogynophiles fetishize the subjugation of women, and I don't respect or support them. "Transwomen" are autogynophiles who have turned their misogynist fetish into their whole identity, and then practice their fetish in public where they intend to force anyone and everyone - including children- to participate in their fetish. We dont need to take these men at their word. We know theyre lying, and we can say so. They say they arent interested in pushing past women's boundaries, yet they insist on playing in our sports. THEY ARE LYING.
We need to be real here. Men lie, twanzgurlz are men, therefore twanz lie. Men are often nasty pornsick morons, amd twanzwomen are no different. If he looks like a pervert and gives you the creeps, but he says he's not a pervert and claims that he just wants to live his life, he's lying. Your instincts are right, he's a creep.
Look, there are a very very small number of grown men world wide with gender dysphoria. And most of them arent twanz. Gender dysphoria pretty much only affects children. If a grown man says that he has "always felt like a gurl", he's lying. When he says he "feels like a gurl" what he means is "I have a fetish for being sexually degraded in ways that I associate with women". And when he says that he's "always felt that way" what he means is that he's felt that way ever since becoming addicted to particularly disturbing types of porn.
There a lot more Andrea Long Chus (autogynophiles) out there than there are Blaire Whites (grown men who identify as twanz amd just want to live their lives, perhaps).
When men want to play in our sports, its because they get off on pushing past our boundaries and getting aFfIrMeD by real women. It's not innocent.
If man drags were women trapped in a man's body, they'd KNOW how uncomfortable and unsafe women and girls feel around nude men in locker rooms and bathrooms. They'd know that women and girls want and need privacy for our differing female needs. The fact that man drags want to take over our private spaces proves they are not women at all. A woman would feel empathy for their women and children. And these man drags aren't homosexuals either, because for THOUSANDS of years homosexual men have been going to bathhouses to be nude around other men. They enjoy men not women. So these man drags who demand access to women and girls in areas where they'll be nude are aroused by the female form. Everything they do and say tells on them that they are NOT remotely female, because they cannot empathize with us at all.
Grouping trans women with women erases women. Women are more than feelings, nail polish and wearing dresses, it’s the gift of life and our dna.
Yes trans women should have their own rights but it’s to group those rights with the rights of biological women. Trans women are biologically advantaged and systematically as well. Its not fair to us when they get our opportunities
Why won’t they just form their own spaces? It’s the path of least resistance for everyone. …because they’re entitled men who believe they have rights to our spaces. If they really cared about women, they’d want to support our need for women only spaces bc they’d have empathy for us. They only have empathy for their desire to erase us. I’m so tired of their shit.
These men cant get over losing their male privilege when they decided to identify as women
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Jan 17, 2023
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Theyre still male, so they still have their male privilege (dont forget, almost all ladybrainz keep their precious dicks, as well as their masculine persinality traits [sense of entitlement, aggression, misogyny, etc.])
Then on top of that, they acquire trans privilege - which means that they get to trample all over women's rights, they get moved to the front of the line for womens sports, women's scholarships, positions meant to promote women's representation, tampon endorcement deals, etc. And any woman who objects out loud gets trashed, bullied, cancelled, fired, or criminalized. Trans privilege.
There really are no downsides for a man to indenticy as twanz.
A lot of the comments in this thread are very upsetting. You can debate about the differences between how cis women and Trans women in how they how have been socialized, but calling Trans women failed men in dresses is absolutely disgusting. That kind of treatment is why so many Trans people have such high rates of suicide attempts, etc. Most of you point to the marginalization of women and rates mental illness and many of you don't seem to see the parallels
Doom Metal Dance Party: I mean, I didn't say or reference 41%, but okay.Both of you: neither of you posted sources. This is starting to feel eerily similar to when armchair experts try to debunk climate change to me, or reference single studies or "experts" (usually with a history of funding from petrol or related companies) the overall concensus among climatologists.. That is not how science works. Systematic reviews -- AKA higher standard of evidence than single studies because it looks at multiple -- show that you seem to be ncorrect.https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=transgender+suicide+systematic+review
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Jan 19, 2023
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You havent provided any sources either.
Here's my opinion: Men's mental health is men's concern, not women's. If hes so fragile that hearing rude comments about his cross dressing fetish makes him suicidal, then he should leave it at home where it belongs. It's not women's problem.
Trans "women" are NOT real women. They are failed males in dresses appropriating womanhood and encroaching female spaces and stealing female hard earned labor, rights and trophies!! Just like the entitled privileged males that they are.
Putting on a wig and a dress doesn't erase their male conditioning, male privilege or their male strength, and it definitely won't erase centuries of female oppression!
We are NOT "Cis" women, we are WOMEN.
Full fucking stop.
We are not the ones changing and mutilating ourselves to adapt to their mental illness. This stupid prefix is pretty fucking offensive, and no sane woman who respects herself would refer to herself with such prefix.
These woman-wannabe fuckers should respect what they imitate and know their fucking place, but they won't..thus they don't deserve my respect nor my support.
https://terfisaslur.com/
Okay. Here's the thing. I do not have a problem with trans people presenting or living most of their lives as another gender. I don't have a problem with a biological male deciding to live as a woman in presentation and whatnot. However - we are not the same and that trans woman is NOT the same as a biological, XX woman. Full stop. Hormonally we aren't the same, cognitively we aren't even the same. We weren't socialized the same as children, and we don't experience the same amount of societal pressures and norms. If I present as a man tomorrow and state myself to be a man, does that suddenly erase my chromosomes, my upbringing and socialization, and the shit I've experienced as a woman? Does a man who does this suddenly get to decide his privileges are nothing because he's "trans"? Come on. That's why if I am referring to a trans person, I never just say man or woman, I say "trans woman" or "trans man". Because we are not the fucking same.
If this makes me a TERF then I guess I'm a TERF because humanity has bigger things to worry about. Civilization collapse, ecological collapse, and maybe species collapse is imminent and yet these people are going to police my language? Nah. Fuck that.
I think they deserve support and respect. But male and female sports leagues are sex based, not gender identity based for biological reasons…
I'm conflicted on this because I feel sympathy for non conforming gender people. Trans women and men get a lot of hate. It can't be easy if you feel better living as the other sex. But these trans activists are truly horrifying. Cancelling and attacking anyone who disagrees. If you disagree you are dangerous and want trans people to die. Nobody is calling them out but the TERFs are okay to harass and threaten. It's all just fucking horrifying. Transmen are transmen and transwomen are transwomen. If this was about equality and rights that would be enough. It's not enough for them. They force women to comply or be completely cancelled. I see people blindy supporting this movement as uneducated and cowardly. They are going with the flow and what's popular now. Only a few brave souls dear speak against this new culty movement. Trans rights are not women's rights because we are oppressed BECAUSE of our BIOLOGY.
There are simply too few opportunities for women, so we might as well hand over the last of our measly crumbs to men... What the fuck, no.
Men aren't women. Women say no. Be unkind to males who dont take "no" for an answer. Give me one good reason why I should respect ladymen. Nah, I didnt think so.
Man drags are NOT women. They will never be women. In a thousand years when archeologists dig up their skeletons, they'll still be men albeit with lots of scratches and grinding marks on their skulls from trying to get rid of their man skulls.
Autogynophiles fetishize the subjugation of women, and I don't respect or support them. "Transwomen" are autogynophiles who have turned their misogynist fetish into their whole identity, and then practice their fetish in public where they intend to force anyone and everyone - including children- to participate in their fetish. We dont need to take these men at their word. We know theyre lying, and we can say so. They say they arent interested in pushing past women's boundaries, yet they insist on playing in our sports. THEY ARE LYING.
We need to be real here. Men lie, twanzgurlz are men, therefore twanz lie. Men are often nasty pornsick morons, amd twanzwomen are no different. If he looks like a pervert and gives you the creeps, but he says he's not a pervert and claims that he just wants to live his life, he's lying. Your instincts are right, he's a creep.
Look, there are a very very small number of grown men world wide with gender dysphoria. And most of them arent twanz. Gender dysphoria pretty much only affects children. If a grown man says that he has "always felt like a gurl", he's lying. When he says he "feels like a gurl" what he means is "I have a fetish for being sexually degraded in ways that I associate with women". And when he says that he's "always felt that way" what he means is that he's felt that way ever since becoming addicted to particularly disturbing types of porn.
There a lot more Andrea Long Chus (autogynophiles) out there than there are Blaire Whites (grown men who identify as twanz amd just want to live their lives, perhaps).
When men want to play in our sports, its because they get off on pushing past our boundaries and getting aFfIrMeD by real women. It's not innocent.
Grouping trans women with women erases women. Women are more than feelings, nail polish and wearing dresses, it’s the gift of life and our dna.
Yes trans women should have their own rights but it’s to group those rights with the rights of biological women. Trans women are biologically advantaged and systematically as well. Its not fair to us when they get our opportunities
Why won’t they just form their own spaces? It’s the path of least resistance for everyone. …because they’re entitled men who believe they have rights to our spaces. If they really cared about women, they’d want to support our need for women only spaces bc they’d have empathy for us. They only have empathy for their desire to erase us. I’m so tired of their shit.
Nah, fuck the posers.
These men cant get over losing their male privilege when they decided to identify as women
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A lot of the comments in this thread are very upsetting. You can debate about the differences between how cis women and Trans women in how they how have been socialized, but calling Trans women failed men in dresses is absolutely disgusting. That kind of treatment is why so many Trans people have such high rates of suicide attempts, etc. Most of you point to the marginalization of women and rates mental illness and many of you don't seem to see the parallels
Seriously, what the hell?