This is a rant/vent post, fair warning. I just need to a place to speak freely and get it off my chest. No one in my real life would sympathize with this.
I'm almost 30 and I've officially had it. Men legitimately make this world a horrible, miserable place to live. Even walking around the city, you can't turn a corner without some man literally spitting on the ground (wtf is up with this? Why the hell do men do this?). There are spit stains all over the pavement and the sound men make when they spit--the entire act is freaking disgusting.
That's literally the least of it. Men are just fucking scary. I take public transport every day and you never know when a guy is gonna oggle you or give you creep stares. Whenever I get dressed in the morning I pick out clothes that make me happy, but whenever I leave the house and pass a guy or have to go through a crowd I get self-conscious about my large chest. More than that, you never know if you're going to have to encounter a criminally creepy dude in public.
The other day I was walking to the grocery store, and there was this belligerent man just acting legitimately scary af. I just wanted to go to the fucking grocery store. Like, leave my apartment for 15 minutes to buy something? Can I not do that peacefully?
Today I had to take a cab somewhere and the cab driver was male. He didn't do anything wrong but of course what statistic popped into my head? The fact that a certain percentage of solo women get sexually assaulted by cab drivers. We shouldn't have to live like this. We should've have to live in constant fucking fear.
Plus, men are just loud. They have loud fucking hobbies. I honestly can't tell you how many times I've had my mental health fucked with by the noise pollution men create. Twice I've lived in neighborhoods where men used loud tools as part of their hobbies. Like try working or reading or meditating when your neighbor is literally hammering away for hours and hours a day. Try having a neighbor who likes playing with his chainsaw. Those neighbors are always dudes.
When I think of all the times I've tried to live my life and had those times ruined by men, it's fucking dizzying. I legitimately cannot think of a single time a woman ruined public spaces or neighbourhoods for me. I've never been scared of a woman in public. I don't have to turn a corner to see women spitting all over the place. Even this one time when a strange woman started talking to me in public, I wasn't scared and it didn't make me feel like I just wanted to go home depressed. I just thought she was weird and moved on. And women tend to have hobbies that aren't obnoxiously fucking loud.
A few years ago I cut the last male out of my life, and he was literally my blood relative. Every single blood relative I have who's male is a misogynist. Every male friend I ever had revealed himself to be a misogynist. Any man I dated for more than five minutes--verified misogynist. This wasn't a happy experience for me. It was painful having to admit to myself that some of my closest friendships/family relationships were actively terrible for my mental health. I would chat with a male friend on the phone for five minutes, and sure enough he would say something terribly sexist that fucked with my mental health for hours (for example, one of my male friends since childhood literally excused his outwardly misogynistic friend's behaviour because he had a bad mother, and his misogyny was therefore, actually, her fault, and totally understandable). I can't even escape the misogyny if I want to go home for Christmas.
The only way a woman can truly protect her mental health is to be a female separatist, and the only way a woman can fully live a separatist life is to have money. Have enough money to buy a car. Have enough money to have groceries delivered. Have enough money to buy land and spaces out of male shouting distance. Have enough money to be able to leave abusers.
This is probably partially why men resent female ambition. They can't catcall us if we're in a car. They can't stalk us at the grocery store if we're not there. They can't get to us if we can afford thousands of acres of land and thousands of dollars in a security system. What's the first thing women do when they have money? Consciously or subconsciously, they start insulating themselves from the stressors of the global patriarchy.
THIS is the content I am here for, thank you thank you thank you for the post - I really would love if we could collectively start taking real, actionable steps towards separatism. Almost every woman with a boyfriend that I know out-earns him. Half of the MARRIED women I know out-earn their husbands. Imagine instead of going 50/50 with some scrote we actually invested in each other? Imagine the properties we could buy together! Literally if we pooled our money we could have high-security compounds in every tony zip code in America. Literally men will not change until their access is cut off, full stop, and even then it's a MAYBE. I'm tired of women insisting that cohabitation and coexistence with men is somehow necessary or inherently good. It's not.
this is succinct and well-written, and i say: do it! a few of the FDS Queens here are already living that life. nothing is really stopping you except the patriarchy...and, let's be honest, they look like they're giving up (video game monasteries and really? the death penalty for abortion? i don't think any woman will be moving to the deep south anytime soon if she can help it.)
the way it's going, we're going to run out of food and clean water anyway. might as well go big.
It’s actually my life goal to start a refuge for women on a ton of land. I’m working on getting a therapist license right now and hoping maybe I can start it as a non profit to help victims of DV and really just any woman that does not want to be dependent on a man. We could have safe places to stay for the night or places you could live permanently. We could garden & make food for each other & help raise children. We could have discussions like we have on this forum!! and bad ass self defense classes along with sewing circles!? I can’t think of anything cooler
I hear you on this! When I started making well over six figures a few years back in my late 20s, I decided I could never go back! Like Drake says its lonely at the top. I realized I couldn't be friends with certain people from my past who are doing worse off cause they'll resent you for being at a better place in life. Let alone dating a guy who's worse off than you! He'll definitely abuse you and sabotage you into the ground. The more I make and save and have plans to become a millionaire before 38, the more I realize men will flock to me to try and use for my money so I have to be super careful. Plus it feels so freeing since all men have to offer anyway is money and resources and if we have those already and can take ourselves traveling and afford spas self care etc what do we need them for? They get big mad when they find out I'm successful and jealous too and enter a secret competition with me in their minds. The last thing I need is some scary man child competing with me and trying to rape of my resources! So I haven't dated in years and have been celibate for 4 years now. I don't miss dating cause every date was just total abuse and gaslightng. Most men are abusers point blank period! I've never been more at peace and happy since stop having sex with men and become separatist and I can tell they hate me just for being peaceful and content on my own 😭😭 Some even try and get with me and don't even like me they just wanna try and bring me down and destroy me! I wanna continue to separate and leave them all behind to destroy each other. They can have eachother and their pickmeishas can have them too!
I believe women should separate while we still have the option to do so. And raise our daughters in a community of women. Let men have the other half of the planet and kill each other. Women don't need men, women need each other. Even Closet pickme's on here who claim to agree with FDS get triggered by this but it's the truth.
I was by myself and a dude asked if we could talk, I said no and he got hostile asking why we can't talk. If it was Saudi Arabia or other pro male country I would have had acid thrown in my face for my disrespect. A dude in Newyork got arrested because he pepperspray women who reject him. One dude kicked a woman in the chest making her fall from the stairs and moved along like everything is fine. Only when he got arrested he walked around pitiful.
I have to admit that I don't like men in general because men never stopped viewing women as property and we will be property again If we don't leave.
Buying a private island is very cheap, and I think all women should try and get one, own a piece of land and live in a matriarchy household. A woman has her own resort called Supershe where women can be at peace without men bothering them.
I posted something similar on a mental health area of reddit. I want to live alone and just have enough resources and money even if it meant my own hard work to get away from draining toxic people (most often men). I really feel where you are coming from though. I hope you can catch a break. Spending time in nature helps me a tiny bit but even there sometimes I encounter a mysterious man who I don't know their intentions while on a hiking trail. It sucks.
when female separatism becomes a common thing, you can bet i'll be there.
When I joke about running off to some anarchist lesbian commune, I actually wish its a viable option for me. at this point, even though i know some high value actually moral and kind uncles and a cousin, I know men my age have no empathy for women and I will gladly only date women for the rest of my days(which is the better option in everyway anyway) or gladly stay single
Loving this thread and feeling you so hard, OP. I always wake up in the morning sometimes after experiencing a nightmare involving a man, and I always think to myself, do I really want to continue to live my life with a man standing around in every corner of my world? I would always imagine and daydream about living in an all-female society and how safe I would feel to do anything and everything I've ever wanted to do, without the fear of getting hurt by a man.
When COVID-19 first hit, there were countries that are run by women who were able to take control of the widespread health and sound mind of their citizens, and they were all able to go back to normal much quicker than everywhere else. If a woman can create a country where the countrymen are all actually countrywomen, we can really do so much more with our time and our potential without the constant interruption and pain-causing bullshit when we are forced to be around or interact with men.
It's so funny this thread popped up because, just the other day, I had to go down to a medical office to do an examination for an upcoming oral surgery. I had nurses there that were so kind to me and I feel so good about everything. But.. in comes my dentist who has to check my mouth, and it's a man. Immediately, I freeze up inside, but I behave cordially with him despite the air already thickening with awkwardness. I think he liked what he saw because he kept looking at me, smiling at me, and even couldn't help himself but touch/squeeze my shoulder when the appointment was over. That's the thing about being a part of a male-female society; your body will never be yours. It will always be public property to be on display, groped and touched by men at their leisure.
Maybe to onlookers, it was just a touch, but to me, it means that I am never going to be free as a woman until and unless I go full separatist. I'm there with you, if only in spirit.
GIRL.
I have a separatist group but it’s not on any surface web social media site. General social media spaces are good for general meeting and discussing but wildly foolish for organizing and planning. I’d love to tell you more about where to come and find us (as well as anyone else who wants in). These are successful sophisticated (and vetted) women . They take this stuff seriously which you won’t find many other places.
Hooray! I love that you posted this!
This is my goal as well. I‘ve been planning & shopping to buy a private island, call it “No Asshole Island,” (haha) and invite refugee women, women fleeing DV, and women who just want a place to rest and be at peace. I’ve been inspired by the women-only communities in Northern Kenya, Brazil and Syria. (links below).
It’s been my dream for several years now. I’d like to build dozens of beautiful smallish homes so that each woman has her own space, and offer either temporary shelter, or a place in a permanent community where each person contributes what she would like. Maybe some could offer art therapy, spiritual guidance and other trauma healing solutions, others could grow food, others might help keep the infrastructure maintained (water supply, solar power, etc). The only rule is No Men and No Assholes ❤️
I like the idea of an island because when/if the world blows up, nobody ever bothers the islands. They are usually remote and unnoticed, so safe. I’m working my butt off to get the cash to begin. Belize has some high-elevation island options for <$1M cash, and is a relatively safe, stable country with very few hurricanes (a key consideration). I‘m also inspired to build with bamboo through the amazing TedTalk woman - Elora Hardy - and she offers bamboo building workshops in Bali. I plan to attend either this fall or next spring. (link below)
Maybe we should create a community online, and work together? I’m not verified yet (I requested it months ago but haven’t heard back 😢), so I’m not sure if you can DM me. But if there’s a way, I would be happy to create a website or online gathering place so we can collaborate. Let me know!
Links:
https://www.ted.com/talks/elora_hardy_magical_houses_made_of_bamboo?language=en
https://amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/aug/16/village-where-men-are-banned-womens-rights-kenya
https://www.mediasupport.org/navigating-a-changing-world/i-sought-refuge-in-an-isolated-village-is-this-the-solution/
https://guardian.ng/life/the-brazilian-town-inhabited-by-only-women/