White women need to have more solidarity with woc

All women should have solidarity with each other. Men don’t have the power to give or take. We give them that option. Men don’t have control we give them control. Women are the ones who can take their power away. Say no to men older than you and the old perverts predators will be extinct from the gene pool. Stop blaming victims for rape or sexual assault that It’s their fault too for trusting him or be outside late.

Don’t try to shift accountability on women for shitty behaviour men display. Such as blaming single mothers for criminal sons. Or that a woman provoked him. They aren’t animals who have women as their trainers. When men act out they should be judged as adults and hold them accountable instead.

Say no to single fathers so that they won’t pull more victims in their web of lies. Don’t date ppl with a criminal record, Don’t breed with men because he told you many times he loves you but start a family with a man who has enough resources to raise your children. Don’t marry men who aren’t virgins. And don’t even date them. Don’t date the lazy men who do nothing around the household.

Don’t date the unhygienic slob, the unorganised man-child.

Dont date the alcoholic.

Don’t bother with a gamer.

Stay away from nice guys.

Remove yourself as soon as disrespect is served by block and delete.

And best of all make sure you have your own career, house and money so that men will never have a leverage over you.

Guess what willl happen?

When all women stand in solidarity then you’re giving men worldwide only 2 options.

Man up, get your shit together and grow up early or die alone.

I have been thrown under the bus and backstabbed by white women and women of color. I don’t discriminate on appearance but I sure as heck will discriminate based on your character.

Aren't you the one that set up a fake dating profile with a white woman's picture so you could "prove" how racist men are? You need to address your anger issues toward white women. Dating is PERSONAL. We should be selfish and choose partners based on what serves us. You are quite narcissistic to think that we should make it about anyone else but ourselves.

Bruh..first of all, why would you assume it was all white women who gave those answers?

I'm a middle eastern woman myself and I would refuse to date a dude outside of my race for the same reason, does that mean I should check my "white" privilege as well! 🙄

It is only common sense to refuse dating any race of man who bashes his own race of women because he will do it to you too... it might be a selfish motive to you, but again I'm sure that's the first thing that most people would reason out in their mind, maybe because it's human nature to look out at ones best self interest first, thus the first thing that comes to mind is a self-centered reason when trying to avoid danger?

Either way it has nothing to do with "white privilege" but more with selfishness. And your reasoning is nonsensical since I'm sure there are women of color who wouldn't wanna date a white dude who shits on white women for the same "selfish" reason.

People are overusing this "white privilege" card and it's getting annoying AF.

Hey I know it is very hard to be a WOC in dating world especially if you come from a culture which is known to opress women time and time again but maybe you misinterpreted the comments? We cannot tell what the race of a user is just by their comments. They can be WOC too who don't wanna date other MOC because they hate women of their own races. I'm a WOC but I won't date an Iranian guy who thinks its ok for women to wear hijab!! I think the reasoning is very valid and can be applied to anyone despite their race and same goes for WOC who shouldn't date a white guy because he thinks white women are 'high maintenance'. Your anger is justified because many times WOC are excluded from the discourse but I don't think you're channelling it in healthy ways. Ultimately it'll be much more beneficial for us if we see Caucasians women as our allies instead of trying to fight. As WOC we should also think strategically about our advancement.

I am also a WOC. I do understand your point, however, I do not agree with it. Self-preservation does not equal selfishness. White women can date who they want. They are already acknowledging the cultural misogyny faced by WOC by weeding out the scrotes from the dating pool. They don’t have to be saviours and activists fighting for our causes all the time. That is an exhausting expectation of anyone. I think you are misusing the term “white privilege”. In saying that, you’re entitled to your opinion just as I am to mine. I agree with your point about solidarity amongst women, however, I think that should be women overall.

Hi, girl! I completely agree with your point that we all should look out for each other. I also agree, that we should not be with people who shit talk their own or any race for the matter. Being with a misogynoir is a huge no-no. But I do struggle to find the correlation with white privilege? Can you, please, explain what you mean, because now it kind of reads like you think only white women are allowed to be selfish, while other races are altruistic self-sacrificing messiahs? I feel like anyone who considers themselves a feminist and FDS-er, would be looking out for their interest first (meaning: I will not date someone like this because they will treat me bad) and then thinking about the community of women (meaning: I will not be with this man, because by being with him I am enabling and validating him as a misogynoir) behind them as a second priority. What do you think, IndianDesiQueen?

I was really disappointed to see some of the comments that you are referencing. This is supposed to be an empowering community where we lift each other up and share and listen to each others' experiences. I just hope those threads didn't completely turn away any women of color from FDS. Certainly those opinions have to be in the minority. At least I hope...

This thread is pitiful--not that it was started but that it has descended into whatever this is now. While we don't have to agree with 100% of each others' views, FDS is all about women supporting women as a consequence of women leveling up themselves, right? I think there are two parts to this discussion: 1. An individual woman placing her views and needs above everything else. 2. Women caring about the plight of other women and this having an effect on the decisions they make. At the very basic level (1.), women beginning to prioritise themselves is what all of this about. If you can't prioritise your own voice, how will you ever appreciate the importance of having a voice to begin with? Since this thread pertains to white women, like with other women, they often struggle to raise their voices above the patriarchy and I will only ever cheer whenever they do. Life is more nuanced when it comes to the second point and it's practice is often really only a consequence of levelling up. Reading through FDS, and this thread, it's obvious to me that the women here often refer to and practice the second point and accusing them of otherwise is likely a misunderstanding. However, this second point will always be the second point and trying to hold women to this standard of considering everyone else but themselves first is against the first point. Should white women be disgusted by MOC who disparage women of their own race? If they're smart and are actually looking out for themselves, yes definitely. Should white women consider the plight of other women? If they really buy into sisterhood and efficiently fighting the patriarchy, also yes. To expect them to place the second point above the first point is absurd, but if they didn't care... I'd rather not know them frankly as much as I will always support their right to prioritise themselves like I do.

I agree with most of what you said but I don’t understand the issue with having selfish reasoning when the actions and results are still the same. If we still aren’t dating men who dislike women of their own race, does it really matter whether it’s out of disgust for them or solidarity with women?

"Why is it not enough to be turned off when he trashes the women of color?" It IS enough that they trash their own women of color. My comment specifically addressed my own outrage of how a black men can refuse to date their own race and how disgusting that behavior is. My primary reason isn't centered around me. It is the disgusting behavior that black and brown men have against dating their own race. Period. I never said, if he can do it to their own race then he can do it to me. Never said that. Just because I know a female who is dating a black man who openly admits to not wanting to date black women, does not make ME the problem. I know a lot of different types of people. I disagree with many of them. I think you are misinterpreting comments. At least you did mine.

It's part of the general response to pick-me exceptionalism (which is especially common in the West/individualistic cultures). You have to make sure you also refute the nlog angle. It does suck but idk how else to get it to sink into that attitude

Thank you for this post And calling out ridiculous comments. I’m also angry about another post as a Southeast Asian woman where white women were saying they don’t care if people Asian or Blackfish even and don’t care about how much transracial bullshit or racism in general perpetuates more misogyny for us non white women.

like if you are white, you are already given so much more chances, opportunities and respect than us non white women to the point where ya’ll turn a blind eye when it comes to us.

Also don’t like using the term WOC bc it feels like it makes no difference to calling people colored like they did in segregation days.

I don’t have to have solidarity with anyone. Why should I have solidarity with you when you don’t have solidarity with me? I’m not being an activist. Leave us alone.

I can't answer for other white women, but I was pretty ignorant to how in many cultures, many right under my nose because I didn't recognize my own privilege, the men treat "their" women like absolute trash but are polite and deferential to me. I don't have to deal with those men on a day to day basis, so I am privileged in that I can escape them. My family might whine and guilt trip me into "needing a man" but I've had the freedom to give them the middle finger and live on my own for most of my adult life. Far too many women can't even have that! I think the big exception is south Asian and some middle eastern men, they're more than happy to sexually harass white women as well. The thought of what south Asian women have to go through and the trauma they experience at the hands of their male worshipping culture sickens me. It's no wonder that the suicide rate for women in India is so high - even when women from those cultures are just as hardworking and educated and intelligent, they're treated as subhuman by the males and inlaws, after being raised by parents who treat them as an afterthought. There is some righteous anger there. So yes, I am pretty ignorant in a lot of ways but I'd rather learn and grow, even if it's just being more aware and to understand what women who are not like me go through - we usually only hear mens version of the story because they Never. Shut. Up. And none of these men will treat a white woman better. They get the same man that the women of their culture get.

So you’re racist, insecure, and play unto the whole race war thing instead of focusing on actual female solidarity? Gotcha. Kind of wish we had the subreddit back because this type of low intelligence/low quality content would’ve never been allowed by mods.

I stand in solidarity with all women but even more so with WOC. I know that on top of what us women face in general they are also subjected to a wide spectrum of other micro aggressions. A man that speaks negatively about any woman is blocked and deleted in my book!

Iam a woc I would shoot myself than date a man of color. That's just my personal preference

I’ve already blocked one account of a white woman who came into to deviate from the topic and brought up a word that was not at all mentioned. This is an exact tactic I see women here discuss how men deviate but the same thing happens to woc all the time from white women. I’m not afraid to block more accounts and call out the deviation when I see it. You are free to make your own posts about issues but coming into this post to center yourself is very telling and unfortunately, a very common experience for woc speaking up about race issues.