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Sick of conservatives blaming feminism for the drop in marriage and babies in the U.S.

There is a post I came across on Instagram where the creator blames feminism for women not wanting to get married or having babies. She fails to realize that without feminism she wouldn't be able to have a career, bank account, credit card, etc.

We also rank as the US the worst in the developed world for childcare. Despite all that, I follow this creator because I do with some of her posts even though I'm not conservative myself.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6ZvVcCOSS0/?igsh=b3N1Mmd2N2ltbzgx

https://www.justworks.com/blog/countries-with-paid-maternity-leave#:~:text=the%20employee's%20salary-,Almost%20all%20countries%20around%20the%20world%20offer%20some%20type%20of,global%20average%20of%2018%20weeks.

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Unknown member

May 01

they'll blame anything but men

BaglessUpright

May 01

I dont like any of this framing, actually. The idea that we all would want to have babies if ... if the economy was better, or if mothers got better support, or if men weren't shit, or if feminism did 'ruin' us.

I'm not having babies because I dont want to. I simply have never had the desire to be a mother. And because of feminism, I'm allowed to make that choice. In the ~1960s and earlier, a woman like me would likely have been forced to (or given no option about) having babies. Women didn't go childfree en masse during the american great depression when the economy was as bad as can be, and men were as LV as ever. But there sure would have been a much lower birth rate if women were able to choose.

I mean, men always have been and always will be LV. That hasnt changed.

What's changed is feminism. I dont blame feminism for poisoning my mind; I credit feminism and our foremothers for creating a world where I have value beyond childrearing and the practical means to refuse men who'd want to knock me up.

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erythrura

May 01

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This so much.

They act like our foremothers in the "good old days" had 10 kids or more (and only saw 5 of them reach adulthood...) with their LV husbands because they wanted to and it's so much fun to go through 10+ pregnancies and births and to struggle every day of your life to feed those kids because your husband doesn't give a shit and never even gave a single thought on how to provide for that many kids.

In a society where...

- marital rape was legal and encouraged but only a tiny number of women had the option to stay unmarried (and e.g. choose to become a nun or live off your fortune) because they fully relied on men economically

-there was no sex ed so most women didn't even fully know how the whole thing worked

-there was no reliable method of contraception other than complete abstinence (and it's not like women had the option to freely choose that)

-religion, politics and social convention tells you from childhood on that the only role available to you is "mother" and that having many children is the only way to be considered "good", "moral" or "useful"

-having children to take you in was the only way not to starve when you get old

etc. etc.

there IS NO CHOICE.

And lo and behold: Thanks to contraception, ways to be economically independent without a husband and equal legal rights (at least on paper), we are the first few generations of women in history who actually have the option to CHOOSE whether to have children or not. And it turns out that many, many women do not want to have children if they have that option. Studies have proven over and over that birth rates sink the more educated and economically independent the girls and women in a country become.

Surprise:

Educated women with equal rights and equal opportunites do not choose to be broodmares but prefer to have no children or only the number of children they can actually give a good life to.

Men had that chance for all of history but they preferred to rape and pillage because didn't give a fuck if all the women the impregnated and all the children they fathered would survive.

Proof 20163 that women are the more moral gender...

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Unknown member

Jun 26

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Ah, very astute. I missed that! (And thanks to feminism for making you realize you had a choice and did not want to choose marriage and kids!)

Tris Canna

May 01

I wish women who advocate for other women to pop up babies and become domestic slave would shut up, quit their jobs, delete all their social media accounts and pop up at least a dozen kids. You know, lead by example.

If it's so wonderful, why don't they do it?

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Glistening Nebula

May 01

When Women are staying away from men It's not women who should be blamed or need to chance.

It's men, Feminism wouldn't be a thing if women were treated as human by default instead of a broodmare and eternal child.

Men will reap what they sow, and I'm happy the 4b movement has hardly scratched the surface and things are already changing.

I choose the bear over men anytime.

Unknown member

May 01

There are 7 billion of us, and we've enslaved every other species on the planet.

Pearlythings and other idiots can chill.

When feminism allows us to only have female offspring, they'll "blame" it for lower crimes rates, too.

Unknown member

Jun 26

We should accept the blame and be very proud of it!! Good for us for opening women's eyes to the exploitation/trap that marriage and kids are in most countries!

Unknown member

May 02

I'm from on of those higher ranking counries and it's true. We have 1 year paid leave and one of our neigbouring country even 2 years.

Sick of conservatives blaming feminism for the drop in marriage and babies in the U.S.

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