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Over the past couple of days I have been watching anime analysis videos, particularly ones with a feminist lens. As someone who grew up watching anime (the non fanservice ones with actual good women characters), it was a breath of fresh air for these creators to finally speak about the elephant in the room…misogyny in anime. They made a lot of good points, explaining how the women characters were not as fleshed out as the men characters, anime geared towards women is deemed “less” than ones geared towards men, and of course the blatant fan service in most of them. However there was one point that these creators missed, and it wasn’t until I saw an incel fueled video called “Why Men Love Anime Girls”. Then it all clicked in for me.
When it comes to all forms of media, anime in particular, it shows a variety of wish fulfillment for its viewers. When it comes to most anime geared toward men, it basically shows their fantasy, what they want to be a reality. Here you will see a bland, non characterized guy as a way of self insert for the male viewers. He is the underdog, someone who is unpopular in school with little friends, no goals other than getting the newest gaming system, and who is also weak. Typical scrote stuff. However, unlike real life men, these anime men gain a sort of “power”. It can come from a weapon, a dead loved one (probably their mom), etc. He is no longer the weak boy form his past, but now an “alpha male” if you will. He gains new friends, a band of adoring fans, you name it. But what is an alpha male without women flocking over to their basic male asses? That is when the harem genre (or subplot of the show) comes it. Here these beautiful, curvy, bubbly 24/7 women come in open arms to our underdog protagonist. They are always sweet, submissive, and will drop anything for their man. Even if some of these characters seem “mean” or a tsundere type, they ACTUALLY like the main character guys!!! She is just shy you know? 🤡 And of course there is fan service (which can gear towards child abuse material since most of these characters are underage girls) where you will see panty shots, close up shots of their breasts and butt, and of course assaults from the main protagonist (but she ACTUALLY likes it secretly guys tee hee 🤡). This right here is the scrote fantasy: they get to still be their low value self living in mommy’s basement while a hoard of (underage most likely) girls who worship their negative 5 inch dick.
Now let’s go over most anime that is geared toward women. Here you have a woman protagonist. No matter the setting she is very ambitious and hard working, often hitting the books a lot or killing it at her work place. She also stays on top of her responsibilities and even makes sure her loved ones are okay (because she isn’t selfish like the before mentioned scrote protagonist). However she is overworking herself. She is stressed from putting others before herself. Sometimes depending on the story she feels like she can’t do whatever it is she does. That is until she gets her OWN powers or whatever adventure she goes on. She learns ways to love herself, to prioritize herself and to stand up to other people. Then there are the guy love interests. While there is fan service it isn’t as in your face as with the male one (like think of one or two shirtless scenes), most of the wish fulfillment for women viewers is just…having a man to respect you and love you enough to make you his number one. Even in reverse harem (harem anime geared toward women) anime the main protagonist doesn’t lead on the other guy characters like her male counterpart. She treats them with respect and politely declines their advances. While there are issues with anime geared towards women (such as questionable love interests and some shows having a no backbone protagonist who never stands up for herself), it is 100% better than most anime for guys.
Now this all goes back to that one incel video talking about why men seem to *love* anime girls. The narrator and the commenters always talked about how anime girls are so “virtuous” and “feminine” unlike those feminist western women characters. Now let me tell you this is all BS. In western media we have come a long way. We have more women characters who are empowered, independent, with their own goals and ambitions. They come in all shapes and sizes and walks of life. Some are girly some are tomboyish. However what these “western” media differs (and even then there are still pick me like types of characters) from anime is that…the women characters put the main male protagonist first. All of their needs and wants are below him. They are constantly doing things for him. Trying to catch his bland asses attention. How they are picture perfect 24/7 in the most fan service outfits ever. These dudes could care less about “virtuous” women characters. They want a mommy mcbangmaid harem and they could only achieve that by watching low value anime shows. Then with women viewers they only want a man who could cherish them and not treat them like garbage.
This is why as an anime fan myself I am going to steer clear of any man who watches gross anime. It is a major red flag if he enjoys such scrote wish fulfillment fantasy shows. If anyone else has their own opinions on this please comment down below! Would love to hear your thoughts on this, as this was something on my mind all day (which is why this whole post seems like a word salad of sorts so my apologies).
My FDS aligned friend and I were talking about how socially awkward LVM are attracted to anime because anime makes the emotions of characters abundantly clear. Like a character will literally voice their thoughts out loud that they're angry at so and so and want to get revenge. Also women's sexual interest is made abundantly clear to make it as easy as possible for the scrotes.
When these men watch too much anime, they become inept in the real world when people don't literally voice their thoughts out loud. When interacting with people face to face, we can analyze their micro expressions and body language to figure out what they mean. Anime addicted LVM become quickly overwhelmed and frustrated with irl interactions and revert back to their anime universe.
It's no joke that the animes that do get English dubbed are either very PG or has a lack of adult content ex: pokemon, one piece, bleach. The harem animes never really get ported to western audiences for a reason. Money is one, sensibility is another. There is so much vile anime content out there, and Japan doesn't really give that much of a fuck, considering it's one of the most misogynistic countries out there for women + idol culture recruiting young girls. Back then, otaku was really a shameful term, as shameful as someone that goes to the back section of a video store for porn. Nowadays it's been made "cool" via pop culture and Japan tourism groups cuz money. Suddenly otaku rooms and culture is "cool". So many study Japanese only to understand anime better vs exploring a whole country, culture, and history through language. I am so glad I went to a women's university because I didn't have to run into these men at all during language courses. Most anime is trash and serves nothing more than a shitty fantasy for guys who can't get women. I can only enjoy neutral animes such as Spy Family because there are just so few good ones that isn't curbed by the male anime gaze. Many anime figures are women with barely anything on, sell for hundreds of dollars. Male figures barely get made and/or not worth as much as girl figurines. Same for gatcha games. Fujoshi is often a term to make fun of women who watch reverse harem animes/make fanfics, accuse women to be broken for wanting reasonable romantic plots when the men in the anime hobby are so much more disgusting with there 100s of hentai fetishes for everything under the sun. This is an industry that will personify warships, race-horses, guns, as 13yr old girls and spin it for a whole season or 2. WHY. Guys will really fuck anything. So yeah, be very cautious or don't date guys who play videos and/or watch anime. I have never met a HVM who did those things or at least tried to limit their time on these hobbies to a healthy, reasonable amount. I don't advertise that I am into anime or other related hobbies. I'm very familiar with the culture, and these guys are so pathetic, spending so many hours on watching anime, video games, and gatcha games. Always anime girl profile pics for their avatar. Some of these guys complain on reddit how they can't get women and they always are into video games/anime(from going thru post history). Lol. Really dude, maybe not spending 10hrs a day playing games to grind your way to the top would help you get laid.
Ditto. I've watched it, gamed, nd read comics most of my life. I avoid men who do those three things like the plague now.
If a man is involved with porn, anime, or video games, I’m not gonna be involved with him. Period.
I noticed this too! I saw an ad for that rezero show and Her outfit was just rediculous! Like it the metal bikini type thing but with lacy lingerie added and it was drawn in such an odd way, like typing the show her jiggling butt and boibs at once. The angles of the clothes literally did not match up. The shounen thing is so true and sad. I saw a manga cover once where she was eraing a purple skin tight dress where you could clearly see her boobs outline. And we wonder why boys are so pornsick...not to mention the grown adult male who illustrated the cover. Another hilarious one I saw was a baseball manga with a girl in the bikini in the front. Like literally front and center, spread out in a manga about 12 years old boys playing baseball. Completely irrelevant context.
And don't get ne started on the white men and boys who fetaishize Asian women due to hentai
This frustrates me so much. There are many animes with great plotlines, incredible worldbuilding and fantastic messages about perseverance, strong will, friendship, loss, etc. But damn, the fanservice is always a slap in the face. I know this shit is intended for men and I am just side character in this world view but I have to speak up and say I dont want to see oversexualized 2D women/girls anymore, PLEASE. Even when its a greatly written female character, the disgusting fanservice ruins them every time. Its so annoying, to the point that I had to stop watching anime for a while cause I couldnt believe men would constantly prove their deprivation like this. They say they watch it for the plot and its elements of mAnHoOd that they like and women could never get but then all they do is buy female figures and make female characters the most looked up characters online....tired.
Alsooo, I think its so funny when men try to argue that fanservice goes both ways and women are complaining for no reason. Sir...a shirtless animated man is not the same as closeup on an animated teenagers chest. I also dont dehumanize men in my attraction to them. At least stop the gaslighting.
this is a new perspective. yeah it’s cringe his they think liking anime is a personality trait
Could you provide us with the links of the videos you watched?
This reminds me of the 40 Years a NEET podcast episode 😂
I can't say I can name examples of anime that fits your description of the male wish fulfillment type.
But maybe that's just because I haven't watched enough anime to have seen it.
Seems like every anime I've watched, there's girls who would hit guys at the drop of a hat. And hit so hard it would be enough to kill the guys if this took place in the real world instead of in animated worlds. That's my point of reference for what anime girls are like. They look cute, but they will fuck you up. 😆