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Hello friends. I want to start this off by saying that for years I have attempted to tolerate the behavior of men, their "flirtations," their rudeness, their repulsive behavior, but I'm absolutely done with them. I have come to realize that men are extremely violent sexually malicious creatures who seek to own and molest women. I've noticed a pattern that the worst men tend to be ugly. Now I know some of you will probably call me shallow but I don't hate them simply because they're ugly. It's how they behave. When a chubby woman is bullied in school for her weight, you don't see her breaking down and deciding she wants the rights of men taken away but when a man faces bullying for a physical trait he always becomes extremely hateful and often violent. Sexually harassing us etc… It's no coincidence that almost every rapist I see on TV is ugly and there's no excuse for this. Even if a few young immature girls who are probably just going through a stage bully you there's no cause for you to hate all women, and more so if a woman rejects you you're not entitled to her body. If you're unattractive we don't want to have sex with you. It's simple. Yes, it's "shallow" but relationships are shallow. You really think most men care about a girl's personality? Personality doesn't mean anything to them. I'm sick of seeing incels online complaining about this. Is it your fault you're ugly? Maybe, maybe not; but life isn't fair. Some people are born blind, do you see them hating those who can see?
Attractive men are legitimately the only nice men as well majority of the time, sure it's probably because they received positive attention from women that they don't hate them and he'd still be a horrible creature if not for that positivity but if we're going to play around with these shallow beasts I'd rather enjoy myself with someone who doesn't hate me for enjoying sex and not wanting to be raped by an ugly man. Legitimately tho men and women don't work the same, I can't just fuck with someone I'm not attracted to, it's literally impossible for me even orgasm while doing such a thing.
Yeah, the meanest, cruelest men I’ve met have been drop dead ugly. I’ve met maybe a handful of ugly dudes who seemed okay, but I’ve yet to meet an ugly man who has a good heart, good character, and is truly HV. Also, attractive men also treat me very well. Not all attractive men have been HV, but I’ve also never been attacked by attractive man, unlike ugly men.
Couldn't agree more but one thing I'll say is that women are not shallow if they find a man unattractive and even ugly. We are all entitled to being attracted to some men and being put off by others. Being shallow is liking a person simply for their looks. Wanting your future partner to be attractive is not a crime and wanting an attractive man that has a great personality is completely normal and within our rights to want.
Men focus solely on women's looks and no one bats an eyelid but if a woman doesn't find a man attractive and rejects him for it then she's the devil. I absolutely hate that. I have no problem rejecting men I don't find attractive and neither should any woman. We don't owe men anything. Men have no problem rejecting women they don't find appealing after all so we should feel comfortable fobbing off men that don't appeal to us physically. Women don't owe men a damn thing 🌟
Being pretty or handsome indicates good genetics and lack of malnutrition growing up. It's not shallow to want a healthy child. There are very few people who are so physically ugly that no one would want them. It's their evil personality that's the true nail in their coffin. Two of the ugliest men I know--1 was a player in college and the other is married twice now. These guys were so hard to look at that I'd avoid lifting in the gym until they left. That's ugly. LOL. Looks are very controllable, though. Eat right and exercise. You'll look decent. Then personaly hygiene, nice haircut, and clothing take care of the rest. It's really no rocket science.
I mostly agree. But the thing with beautiful men is they think they can get away with bad behaviour, because they know they're handsome and can get whatever woman they want.
If they don't molest you or act shitty it's only because they know the next woman will happily open her legs and do whatever for him..
You should absolutely reject men who you do not find attractive. However, for myself, physical attraction is typically correlated to how much I like and respect someone. The concept that physical appearance is somehow linked to morality is false. It may be an indicator of someone's amount of self-care, mental health status, underlying conditions, etc. Certain aspects of a person's appearance are also out of their control. Whether they'll treat you well, be kind to you, abuse you, or denigrate you cannot be accurately assessed primarily by appearance. This concept is reductive, and will get in the way of correctly vetting men. Patrick Bateman, anyone? Conventionally attractive men can be deeply evil. I've seen it.
What I don't see mentioned is that attractiveness is a proxy for health. We cannot see how well their body is functioning internally, but we can whether health shines out of their skin and hair. When we condition we are making our hair look healthier and therefore more attractive. Height is a proxy not just for health but for fitness - in the Darwinian sense of the word. A kid with 2 good parents who provide healthy and regular meals is likely to shoot up in height, whereas a nutritionally deprived child will have stunted growth. The tall partner is more likely to have healthy genes and and a good provider.
Why would we be attracted to unhealthy mates?
It's not shallow. I have noticed this too after literally getting bullied into dating a couple of ugly men because I was "too stuck up" for them. They are angry, self hating, aggressive, mean men. Once in a while an ugly male might be nice but that's like winning the lottery.
P.S. attractiveness vs ugliness are evolutionary indicators of genetic health. Ugly = bad genes, attractive = good genes. Listen to your instincts. Mother nature knows best. If ugly men weren't aggressive and nasty, they would get bred out of existence.
Agree. Same for fatties too bc it’s been my experience that fat men put the EAT in Cheat. We’re either around the same level of attractiveness & body type or we’re just friends.
I've had the absolute absolute worst experience with ugly men. It's not shallow to say this. It's exhausting to deal with their insecurities. Having a pretty woman on their arm is a massive massive ego boost and then they think they can keep doing better or they get insecure and cheat. Ugly men have been the most vile, physically violent and abusive men I've ever met. Make no mistake, the patriarchy has gaslit women into going against their biological inclination to choose healthy looking, attractive partners who are also responsible and have the resources to look after her and their offspring. Most men are supposed to die virgins. Not all men deserve to or are supposed to be having sex. Modern feminism has just been hijacked by the patriarchy to benefit men more than they have ever benefited in history. Your lived experiences are valid. So many women have probably has identical terrible experiences with ugly men. Women are so terrified to get called shallow gold diggers that we give in to the gaslighting and lies of giving the ugly guy a chance. They won't be grateful. They will be entitled.
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Ugly is cultural and not the result of bad genetics. I’ve only met three truly “ugly” women Ugly can be improved with hygiene and self-care, but some people just fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down and can only become less ugly. I’ve come to despise pretty boys because they’re usually up themselves. Choose someone you feel attracted to. Your choices matter more than “conventionally attractive”.
I think that also depends on the attractiveness of the woman. We have to be realistic about where we fall on the beauty scale, and I don't mean listening that delusional insecure voice inside our heads, that lies to us about our worth, I mean being truly realistic about where our looks are at compared to society. Not all women can date the most attractive men. Just like not all men can date the most attractive women. For me, I am 47 yrs old, 5'6, 190 lbs biracial female. Admittedly, I have let myself go over the past 7 years or so. So my looks are even worse than they used to be. Right now, I am a solid 6, on a daily basis, but even being 190lbs, when I put in the effort in my clothes and makeup, I level up to a 7 or 8. When I was younger, and thinner, with less aging, and in much better shape, I would say that my daily was a 7, and I would level up to a 9 when I dressed up. So for me today, as a person with looks in the 6-8 range, I'm not really going to be pulling in the Brad Pitts of the world. In fact, I remember this one time, (years ago when I actually looked better than i do today) I hung out with this highly attractive male. We didn't have sex but he spent the night at my place and slept on the couch. I slept in my bedroom. I wake up looking pretty ugly I admit. I am a hard sleeper and I look a MESS when I wake up. This guy saw me in the morning and scowled and said, "I really can't be spending time with women like you. I mean, look at me? I'm really good looking. I can get any girl I want. I need to stop fucking around with girls like you." 👍 lmao. Now although this was super harsh, and I immediately told him to get the fuck out of my house, he wasn't lying..it was true. We didn't match. He could get better looking girls than me. His words didn't hurt me however cause I actually have high self esteem despite not being the most attractive female. My point is that if my own looks range is 6-8 then that is what I'm going to realistically attract out in the world. But I do have plans to work on my weight, and getting myself back into shape, so maybe then I'll be able to attract more attractive men.
All men are horrible, regardless of their appearance. Their appearance has no bearing on how they treat women, good or bad.