It’s just agenda-promoting stuff to try to swing more control back in the hands of men. He’s never been a mid-30s woman who dated a slew of 40 and older men and compared them to the slew of dates in the 25-35 range….but I have. And I can tell you that there has been virtually no difference in maturity levels. Some have their heads together, most are hapless. There is some truth that if you’re in your 20s and he is over 35, many will treat you better, but it’s not maturity. It is because he will see you as more of a prize that will incubate babies for him and/or impress other men. This, however, has nothing to do with who you are as a human….do you want that? Not me.Moreover, you won’t always be young, and from there- if he never saw you as all the way human- you’ll see just how much Men Are As Faithful As Their Options rings true. Since this coach loves to use celebrity examples, I have them too- Paulina Porizkova, prime example. Hot AF, still is, but she aged, and her senior citizen, “mature” man ceased to value her (Ric Ocasek is an ugly old scrote, but a rich and famous one, so he likely has sexual options, temporary as they may be). On the other hand, the much younger Hugh Jackman comes off as a lovely husband (to his much older wife, fwiw).
So, while I’m open to much older or younger, I suppose I default more around someone within 5 years in each direction. It helps in avoiding those who see me as a hot younger prize to show off to their old man friends, or a young man trying to check off the Mrs. Robinson box to brag about to his friends before he settles down with a woman he really wants. Also his closed body positions and sulky face aren’t exactly winning me over.
I was going through a really bad time and was with someone much older . We are not humans to them but a someone they can show off to other men ' look how young she is " it's sick and I wud never do that again . I am Still healing coz at one point I broke down in front of him and all he could say is " why are you crying you are so young and beautiful to do that " still sexualizing my youth ! God that was the last straw. I went home and blocked and deleted him from everywhere .
God I am so sorry. Dehumanization is awful, perhaps worse when it’s packaged as affection. But, as one whole ass human to another, I hope you know it’s more of a reflection of his limited, broken brain than it is of you.
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If anything women should date men 10 years YOUNGER...For many biological reasons....one of them is that men die earlier than women...Men aslo age badly and hit he wall in their freaking twenties!!
HVM always know what they want. They don’t need to mature because they don’t have the scrote years. My brother met his wife in his early twenties and has been blind to all women ever since. As soon as he met her he made it clear she was the one and pursued her. My dad was the same although late twenties. As soon as he met my mum he just pursued her and he adored her until the day he died.
Thissss. I have definitely seen those cases irl and they are hype worthy; young men who meet a girl at his high school or college and decide right there and then that he's going to marry her soon and raise a family with her. They always look so beautiful and happy together. Meanwhile, other scrotes will be like "It's okay I'll sleep around and wait until my 40th birthday to take marriage seriously" and then act surprised when women find him ugly and creepy around that time.
Anyone promoting age gaps has an agenda, usually a predatory one. Old men gross and creep me out, men around my age are better. Physically, mentally, emotionally, I share a deeper connection with men around my age than I do with some dude from a different generation. Old men who go after young women can’t get women their own age for a myriad of reasons and if women their own age don’t want em, I sure as hell don’t. Guys who have something to offer don’t have to resort to inappropriate and predatory relationships, they have no issue finding age appropriate partners who can meet them at their level. I date MAX +-5 years. Most dudes I date are a year or two older or younger. Besides, I’m 22. What could a 32 year old offer me other than a balding head and pornsickness? I make a soft six and I only date guys my age who also make at least what I do so it’s not like a 32 year old beings anything but life experience and baggage to the relationship.Even if I was poor I don’t see why I’d go for such an old man. I’d rather focus on building myself up rather than waste my time on some creep who can’t get women his own age. It’s not even a question. No HVM would EVER engage in a large age gap. It’s disgusting.
I'm your age. At 9 years old, I randomly woke up in the middle of the night and thought 4 years older is the max age and anything else feels icky.The only thing that changed is I feel 4 like years is too much and 3 years feels like a good limit.I want true maturity. A man won't become mature if his family raised him on the "boys will be boys" model. Not even when his 50. I believe if his family held him responsible like they did his sisters, he would be more mature for his age not less.A guy that's less mature for his age, who's behind in life, will prefer to connect with a younger woman or only be able to connect with a younger woman. So, he can feel "mature" and not behind. The problem is that you'll keep growing and learning from people around you to surpass them but can you count on his stunted growth when he takes the easy way out to flatter his ego?I think if you have a combination of maturity and high eq, you wont want someone for their youth. If the most responsible, disciplined, high eq person I meet is 1-2 years younger I'll go with them. Btw if you're 22 and you make a soft six, how do you find guys that are younger than you but also make around what you do?
Ugh I feel that SO much. My max is five years and it’s a HARD max. Like, most guys I date are around my age by 1-2 years and I personally can’t imagine going lower or much higher, but I stay open to potential if they’re HV. An example being I knew a 19 year old when I was 19 who started at his retail job when he was 15 making min wage ($7.25 at the time), he kept getting promoted every year for stellar behavior, and then by 19 he’d climbed his way up to assistant manager making $70k a year. (Actually, I just googled this and avg pay is $87k!) From a RETAIL job. The general managers make six figures and if he kept with it, which he planned to, he’s likely making very good money right now from a very lucrative career. He was also super sweet, funny, mature, thoughtful, and if I hadn’t been dating a dif guy at the time I’d have been open to dating him. So it’s not impossible. The other option I see is if a guy trained under someone as an apprentice. I knew a LOT of kids who spent half their high school days at the technical college so by the time they graduated hs they already had a degree, too, and I imagine this group is also very well off financially since they didn’t wait until after 22 to start their careers and would be 4 years deep in experience by now. Also, trust fund babies. Lol. I’ll never say no to a guy wanting to use his dad’s money to spoil me. Hahaha. Anyway, for the little bit older I find them at college alumni meet ups and hobby groups for young adults. Most young men who are active in their communities (sports, gym, hobbies, clubs, volunteering, etc) are going to be awesome imo. Most men I meet who are active, have a creative hobby, and the free time to show up to these events usually have their lives pretty well in order. Most guys around my age spend the vast majority of their time on drugs, alcohol, and stupid shit so they still live with their parents and are basically nowhere in life. They easily take themselves out of the dating pool. They could grow up into better people, but for now they’re losers. I don’t like these guys. I date guys who aren’t into clubbing, who prefer to spend their Saturday nights at a book club or hanging out at a BBQ with friends. I feel like catering your choices directly into “where do I want to meet my partner” and “where would my partner choose to spend his Saturday nights” should help with finding guys who match your tastes. I’m reserved. I prefer spending my Saturday nights in a library reading books or at a writing group discussing my latest novel I’m working on. I want the same for my future partner so I join more reserved groups. Also, hanging around my work’s break areas and talking to men around my age since the guys here usually make around my income has been good, too. I don’t recommend this if you work in the same department or if you will see each other every day. I travel for work and just being able to sit in the break room and chat with guys my age who I may or may not see again has been pretty great for working on my flirting. A lot of men in my line of work are just as ambitious as I am and it’s refreshing. It’s heavily male dominated tho and sometimes flirting will get rolled over by old men who want my attention and make it weird. Like, I had one man my age order us a pizza and some sparkling water for our break and we went to a lesser traveled break room to have a lunch date. Oddly enough, a MUCH older guy came in, saw our pizza, helped himself, and sat down at our table to converse. Even tho there were plenty of other tables and even a couch he could have sat on to watch TV. Another example was me and a guy had been flirting pretty heavily and this old man walked right up to us to complain about management. It was so weird. We tried to keep talking but he kept interrupting. I travel around a general area so it’s not a given I’ll be back for weeks or even months, but they’re still in a good radius for dating. So yeah. I hope this helps, while I agree it’s unlikely to find a HV young man under 25, they definitely exist!
Edit: You know, the more I think of it the more I remember extrordinary kids at my high school starting their own businesses (zumba, photography, t-shirt sales) and creating their own non-profits, too. Also kids who worked at their parent's businesses and got experience and money from that. There's a lot of opportunities for there to be amazing HV people. I'll also note that these same people are all married now to their hs sweet hearts tho. So. Happily so btw.
yeah i don’t like people my age either. i’m a college senior. i’m not super focused on dating but the idea is nice. i’m just tired of low value dusties everywhere
Yes I just don't trust men and their dating advised as they will never know what we women go through life and feel . I hope Noone pays attention to him and he fades away like rest of scroty dating gurus .
Ten years up or down has always been the age range that I’ve operated in. I don’t see a relationship working out many times if a couple isn’t within 10 years age range of each other. Too many issues with lack of common experiences, different generation‘s attitudes, goals, music, movies, etc. And the elder person in the relationship, male or female, has to have money and also be very attractive. Large age ranges are just another stressor on the relationship. There’s pressure to not age and to be wealthy if you’re the older one, and there’s pressure on the younger one to be more mature and to try to fit in with the older one’s family, friends, and even their children who might be close in age. Obviously, some people do truly fall in love with someone who’s older, but there’s a lot of potential for exploitation either way whether it’s the older person exploiting the youth and naïveté of the young person, or the young person who’s pretending to care for the older one just for monetary gain.
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Never take relationship advice from a man. It only benefits them. They don't actually care about womens wellbeing.
It’s just agenda-promoting stuff to try to swing more control back in the hands of men. He’s never been a mid-30s woman who dated a slew of 40 and older men and compared them to the slew of dates in the 25-35 range….but I have. And I can tell you that there has been virtually no difference in maturity levels. Some have their heads together, most are hapless. There is some truth that if you’re in your 20s and he is over 35, many will treat you better, but it’s not maturity. It is because he will see you as more of a prize that will incubate babies for him and/or impress other men. This, however, has nothing to do with who you are as a human….do you want that? Not me. Moreover, you won’t always be young, and from there- if he never saw you as all the way human- you’ll see just how much Men Are As Faithful As Their Options rings true. Since this coach loves to use celebrity examples, I have them too- Paulina Porizkova, prime example. Hot AF, still is, but she aged, and her senior citizen, “mature” man ceased to value her (Ric Ocasek is an ugly old scrote, but a rich and famous one, so he likely has sexual options, temporary as they may be). On the other hand, the much younger Hugh Jackman comes off as a lovely husband (to his much older wife, fwiw).
So, while I’m open to much older or younger, I suppose I default more around someone within 5 years in each direction. It helps in avoiding those who see me as a hot younger prize to show off to their old man friends, or a young man trying to check off the Mrs. Robinson box to brag about to his friends before he settles down with a woman he really wants. Also his closed body positions and sulky face aren’t exactly winning me over.
If anything women should date men 10 years YOUNGER...For many biological reasons....one of them is that men die earlier than women...Men aslo age badly and hit he wall in their freaking twenties!!
HVM always know what they want. They don’t need to mature because they don’t have the scrote years. My brother met his wife in his early twenties and has been blind to all women ever since. As soon as he met her he made it clear she was the one and pursued her. My dad was the same although late twenties. As soon as he met my mum he just pursued her and he adored her until the day he died.
Anyone promoting age gaps has an agenda, usually a predatory one. Old men gross and creep me out, men around my age are better. Physically, mentally, emotionally, I share a deeper connection with men around my age than I do with some dude from a different generation. Old men who go after young women can’t get women their own age for a myriad of reasons and if women their own age don’t want em, I sure as hell don’t. Guys who have something to offer don’t have to resort to inappropriate and predatory relationships, they have no issue finding age appropriate partners who can meet them at their level. I date MAX +-5 years. Most dudes I date are a year or two older or younger. Besides, I’m 22. What could a 32 year old offer me other than a balding head and pornsickness? I make a soft six and I only date guys my age who also make at least what I do so it’s not like a 32 year old beings anything but life experience and baggage to the relationship. Even if I was poor I don’t see why I’d go for such an old man. I’d rather focus on building myself up rather than waste my time on some creep who can’t get women his own age. It’s not even a question. No HVM would EVER engage in a large age gap. It’s disgusting.
Yes I just don't trust men and their dating advised as they will never know what we women go through life and feel . I hope Noone pays attention to him and he fades away like rest of scroty dating gurus .
Ten years up or down has always been the age range that I’ve operated in. I don’t see a relationship working out many times if a couple isn’t within 10 years age range of each other. Too many issues with lack of common experiences, different generation‘s attitudes, goals, music, movies, etc. And the elder person in the relationship, male or female, has to have money and also be very attractive. Large age ranges are just another stressor on the relationship. There’s pressure to not age and to be wealthy if you’re the older one, and there’s pressure on the younger one to be more mature and to try to fit in with the older one’s family, friends, and even their children who might be close in age. Obviously, some people do truly fall in love with someone who’s older, but there’s a lot of potential for exploitation either way whether it’s the older person exploiting the youth and naïveté of the young person, or the young person who’s pretending to care for the older one just for monetary gain.