What do you think about this convo I had w/ a feminist pickme?

The man will NEVER love you if you pay half and split things with him. Men fall in love and feel important via service. Even a f*cking male owl knows he's gotta bring the mice and the nest for the female to be interested. The bull and stallion in the field knows he's gotta protect and provide for his girls and babies. Only human males have this idea that they don't have to compete to breed and that a woman should just be issued to him as a rule instead of something he earns. Men do NOT value that which they don't work for. A man cannot be triggered to care if he doesn't win you over. And that will NEVER change. Make him invest his money and time in you. That's the only way you'll ever know that he gives a damn. Men bitch constantly over women they gave money to but got nothing in return, but have you ever heard one say, "I gave her this dick and all of my love, and she didn't want me?"😂😂😂 Listen to what men complain about and what they do. They'll spend money on their dream girl. Make them prove you're her.

This is infurating to read in so many levels. "I think I know nicer men than you do" is such a big delusion. She doesn't know better men, she simply hasn't taken off the pink glasses yet and believes that men and women are the same. For lukers or newbies, this is the truth:

1) men don't put nearly as much effort in dates as women, most of them don't even take a shower so that already makes 50/50 unfair.

2) men will do even less than the bare minimun if that means sleeping with you quickly. They'll always be down for an easy lay, the easier the better. That's why they'd ask for a coffee date and ask you to split while simultaneously expecting sex.

3) most men are indeed like OP said in her comments. Don't believe that the new guy you're seeing is different because you paid half of the bill and he still hasn't pressured to have sex. He wants sex as much as the men who pay, so make them pay.

4) men see women as objects to be purchased. That's why so many of them expect sex after paying for two or three dates, but this is a men's problem. They need to seriously rewire their brains in order to see women as full humans, so don't believe for a second that just because you're going 50/50 he's seeing you as human.

Overall, there's no real benefit in going 50/50 and I'd even say that there's no real benefit in dating most men anyway. Once you see the truth, you can't unsee it. MAKE THEM PAY.

I went out with a man in college who paid two or three times, then got pissy I still hadn’t slept with him, snapping at me “This isn’t a charity!” (Mind you, we had split on every date since because I was young and didn’t know much). The man paying outs the ones that feel entitled to purchase you. I also had a guy who insisted on paying for everything say when I ended it (which I did because he tried to guilt me out of going out to dinner with my MOM) “wish I’d known before I spent half my paycheck trying to make you like me!” Wish I’d known that a $45 Applebees bill was half your paycheck, asswipe 😂 If they think women are for sale, nothing makes that more apparent than them paying for the date.

The biggest reasoning that turned me around from my former "I can afford to pay for myself" ways is seeing it pointed out that it's the fuckwads who fuck around trying to date a different woman every day of the week who tend to pinch their pennies.

I should have known that in the first place, but somehow I didn't make that connection until you ladies presented it to me. And then it was like a light bulb moment.

Having him pay serves important purposes - it helps weed out the men who are in it to get himself a woman to use, any woman, he doesn't care who. And he wants it as cheaply as possible. If he starts acting like you owe him, now you know exactly who he is. It's best to find out early.

Men who complain about women using them for free meals deserve the side-eye. They're giving away the fact that they don't think about the realities women are dealing with - it's highly unlikely women would risk rape for a free meal. More likely he had real chances with those women, but he blew it when the women can sense his "she better suck my dick for spending $30 on her" attitude.

Let her die a fucking martyr. She wants to pander to men so bad, then let her- her being miserable won't impact you (lvm will always be low value- I hate the notion that pickmes MAKE men lv or change them- they are born that way since men don't change- a hvm will always be a hvm no matter who bends over backwards for them- it doesn't change his character). She's no feminist. Any bitch (male or female) who uses the "You must surround yourself with bad men" "you must have been violently r*ped" "you're being very emotional/too biased because of personal trauma imma assume you have" as a means to be dismissive of a woman (even if she were mistreated by males it does nothing but prove her point that males are shit) is no feminist. Btw- not to sound like a misandrist (jk that's exactly what I am) even if males and women were perfectly 50/50 (women were paid the same wage for the same job, women faced the same amount of risk in going as males do, etc etc) I wouldn't acknowledge it as actual 50/50 because women are superior to males in every way (can't 50/50 pregnancy 💁🏿‍♀️)

Eh. I don’t care. Let these pandering pick mes date their loser LVMs. Someone has to and it won’t be me. Lmaooo. These are the same women who are making tik toks about how much they “love” their raggedy situationships and who harass me when my bf pays for everything. They’re pathetic and jealous with very low self esteem. You can’t talk sense into em, they have to make it here on their own. I like to think of it like: If I wouldn’t want to live her life, I won’t take her advice.

Well, I just got banned from askfeminist lmao. Because I said men should pay, the mod said, "enough of this FDS bullshit". And banned me. But I think I got through to a few of the women, and my comments will be there for women to read in the future. So I am ok with being banned if I got through to even one woman!

If a man ask you out he needs To use your time well and treat you with dinner. If he doesn’t want that he should stay alone. Women don’t owe men their time for free.

"I think I just know nicer men than you do." Girl, BYE! 😭🤣

Here's a thought for that scrote, but did it ever occur to him that not every single feminist is going to have the same idea or even practice the same branch of feminism? There's different schools of feminism that one can study: radical, liberalism, eco, marxist, cultural, etc. If 50/50 is such a huge fucking deal to him and what he desperately desires in a partner, he could go out with a libfem who also enjoys going dutch.

But that's not it, isn't it?

Once again, men are trying to control the marketplace of the dating world by trying to make the women he secretly desires, aka attractive women who believes that men should provide for the dates, to change their mind and give him and his poor pp a chance. There's a whole wide world FULL of pickmes out there he can date, a world full of pushover libfemmy girls who will pay for her own plate (hell, she'll even pay for all of the dates because mUh EqUaLiTy). 50/50 women are out there in abundance. But yet, he wants the smaller group of women out there who would never look at him or give him a chance if he wore "I go half on dates" stamped on his shirt. I really can't see any other reason why he and other men like himself would always go so hard bringing this tired old question up again and again.

Men complain and pretend to hate a certain group of women because he wants to fuck them the most out of all the other types of women out there. Once you see this happening over and over again, you will really see it repeatedly and you'll believe me. He who speaks shit the most about a certain woman, is the woman he most wants to be with. Trust!

Where are the artificial wombs that men insert into themselves to do an actual 50/50 split of labour and physical damage? This is the first and last argument you will ever need

I am loving these answers!