I'm feeling a bit annoyed as I redownloaded OLD (not sure why as I just know it's a mess...I think I wanted to 'see what was out there' hoping things would be different but not sure why they would be) and so many men in my area are into this crap. a lot of ones that appear to be/come off as/make themselves out to be highly intelligent (like those in academia) or highly empathetic/understanding (the fake feminists/SJW liberal/fake activist types) are conveniently into it, generally I feel like a lot of the men I would go for seem to be into it. it just feels like in my area in particular this has really taken over, I just don't get it. I'm more politically inclined myself and I do value intelligence/related pursuits being in the education field myself so it just feels frustrating that men I might gravitate towards because I feel like we may have stuff in common I am instead immediately repelled by. I just don't get why it's exploded so much recently.
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The more we advance ourselves as women in society, the more the patriarchal tries its best to push us back onto the ground by the weight of its boot. And one good way of doing that is via violent male sexuality, by pornography posted literally everywhere, sex trafficking, sex robots, hookup culture, more and more plastic surgery and extreme makeovers pushed onto women, and now ENM/poly. It's another way to oppress women.
>just don’t get why it’s exploded so much recently Because so many women have been burned by cheaters that they have gotten good at searching for social media and background of potential men on OLD or left OLD altogether. This has made men 1. more desperate and 2. smarter to know their marriage license, land title, etc will turn up their wife so they have, en masse, decided to cover the lie by saying ENM or poly. No one postalizes chocolate cake; cake is universally delicious. ENM and poly people expend vast energy “selling” their lifestyle because it’s shit. Always has been and always will be.
Ugh. I hate seeing it become “mainstream“. Poly started on the west coast of the US with fans of sci-fi author Robert A. Heinlein. Then it was introduced to the neopagan and bdsm communities and then they introduced it to the mainstream and then scrotes started writing bullsh*t books like “Sex at Dawn” about it being “natural” to humans. The things almost all poly proselytizers have had in common are being male, being sad perverts, and being obsessed with controlling women.
Poly is a cult IMHO. Hot charming men don’t need to trick women into a cult to have sex with multiple women —sad losers do.
It’s so embarrassing how desperate men are becoming.
“I’m a f*ckboi, but it’s okay because I’m an ethical f*ckboi” and ”I’m married, but it’s okay because I’m ENM/Poly and my wife knows (haha no she doesn’t)” is not the genius plan they think it is.
I’m starting to meet more women who are using the ENM trend to their advantage—the women who want flirting, dates, and sex, but don’t want a boyfriend or marriage or to live with a man (or even let him in their homes). They throw the men away like used condoms and the men don’t like it. They get mad when they get treated how they (wish they could) treat women.
These sad men think they cracked a literal cheat code, but I don’t see evidence of them “winning”. Just evidence of them f*cking around and finding out. Enjoy living with your five male roommates into your 50s boys.
I kind of use OLD as a bit of entertainment recently, and to train setting boundaries, or just discussing certain things in that sphere, so sometimes I let some convos go on like a few questions further than I should, that is just for the comedic effect or to see how petty they will get and watch and learn.
A guy who had open to monogamy/ENM in his profile started talking about how in his city of origin, a huge European city, 80% of people seem to have that kind of relationship preference in their profile. He said that, because I played dumb and was like, what does this relationship preference mean to you? I often find that drilling down on having people define and explain things, it quickly shows how flawed their logic is. I was like "so, the ENM, is it when you watch porn in a relaltionship or is it when you can see other people in real life?" tying in to some previous talks about his perception of local women who seem more conservative.
And he answered that it's when you can see other people IRL, and that watching porn in a relationship should be accepted and ended the sentence with a question mark, showing that he's not quite sure himself or thinking it's so super normal that my question is weird.
As I answered that I don't think he understands the definition of monogamy then and he went on blabbing and saying how he "senses" some judgement in my questions and how he doesn't appreciate it. I then unmatched him. Porn has seriously damaged prefrontal cortexes so widely that they can't even perceive very simple discrepancies in logic when it pertains to them.
I love when they address this in the podcasts.
you can find stories all over the internet of guys who “came out” as poly well into their relationship, which is bs because it is not a sexual orientation. I do prefer to know up front if a guy has that messed up of a moral compass.
when a guy says he is poly I assume he is a sexual predator and coerces women into thinking they are the one who is wrong for not accepting it. Or he just straight up is sneaking around his partners back and lying and is really just cheating.
In a way it's a good thing. People can be honest about it and then we know. I believe poly people lack attachment skills and don't really know intimacy and true connection. I used to be like that. I was scared of true intimacy.
It's deemed normal in our society and it's quite sad. It's good though because men will be honest about it without shame. So we know who to avoid. The only good thing about poly kink mainstream culture is that it's become easier to avoid these people.
Vet, delete and block 🥰
Because of porn. Porn makes people addicted to sleeping with a bunch of new people all the time and they are basically animals. OLD is looked at as a free prostitute catalog by most so it’s the worst and most depressing place to look.
If there was more societal pressure on these men to be monogamous, they would only do so unhappily and unfaithfully. Many (maybe even most) men, past and present, have paid lip service to monogamy while actually having no interest in it. The only thing that's changed is that more men now feel comfortable admitting this upfront, instead of feeling the need to hide it and cheat behind your back. These men were never going to be a fit for you.
I really don’t care about how other people choose to lead their romantic lives. If ENM works for them, god bless. Im not interested in engaging with it, but it doesnt hurt me in the slightest if an increasing number of people find it works for them.
Isnt it as easy as left-swiping on anybody advertising themselves as such? How is it hurting your own prospects if people are self-disqualifying based on your values? Doesnt that just save you time?