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Ladies I'm having mixed feelings about this post. As much as I feel like this is just lame scrotery, I am happy about the prospect of this guy taking himself out of the dating pool. FDS preaches that women date the "top 20%" of men because those are the only men that pass our standards. The issue so far has been getting the remaining scrotes to get used to the new status quo. Instead of getting them to raise their standards maybe the goal should be to lean into the other way. This is the first time I've read something written by an 'incel' that DIDN'T alarm me. The first time I've found a semi-healthy way to live life as an incel. First time I felt like an incel did not convey his entitlement.
Also for the men out there listening, a woman is more prone to give you a chance if you admit your faults and be yourself rather than playing games. TL; DR Ladies who are unable to find a man who meets their standards usually bow out & figure out a way to live life without a man. FINALLY it looks like men are starting to grasp that same concept?
He's 19, still a teenager, and giving up on self improvement already? It's just so pathetic I can't even deal with it. My ex husband was 5'-7" whilst I'm 5'-11". My ex husband's best friend is 5'-2" and has been married for over 20 years to a Korean lady who's shorter than him. This doom and gloom about height and dick size is insane and comes from porn and men. Other men benefit when guys give up and don't even try to compete. If you've got a weird personality, how about not reading incel garbage? Go get the classics and start reading about stoicism, mechanics, engineering, or anything else that isn't so negative. And the 80/20 rule came from the Army over 3o years ago, and it means 80% of the work is done by 20% of the people. It doesn't apply to dating other than maybe the ONS segment of the population. When there's no relationship on the table, why would a woman f*ck an ugly guy? But women routinely marry unattractive and weird guys to have a relationship. I'm just so done with the lack of logic and understanding of males. I've been in the Army and working in construction since 1995, and how come ALL of the men I've met in ALL of those years have been married or have had serious girlfriends regardless of height, weight, baldness, craziness, etc.? The 400 lb, diagnosed schizophrenic, operations manager at my last job had a hot wife and 2 young boys with her. All of the men higher than me and lower than me had wives and girlfriends. ALL of them. And many of them were hitting on me despite being involved. I'm so sick of this "woe is me" bullshit from men. Even Richard Ramirez managed to get a wife. That's how low the bar is for men.
Lol @ guys acting like short women don't exist
I don’t entirely understand what you’re conflicted about. Are you say saying it’s worrying that men are opting out of self improvement instead of jumping up to our requirements once we’ve raised the bar? Well, I think the thing is, you can’t make someone else want to do something - the end goal of FDS isn’t to necessarily get with a valuable man, it’s primarily to avoid the ones who damage your life, well-being, circumstances. It’s really none of my concern if a man with no drive for self betterment and no ambition exists.
I suspect scrotes pushing Reddit posts here to annoy us. Please ignore. This smells fishy.
I find this entire thing... quite interesting, honestly. Ultimately, if a man refuses to better himself in any way outside of vanity and lookism, then absolutely the best thing he can do for all of humanity is to take himself out of the gene pool.
But then, looking at this post written by an incredibly young man makes me feel all sorts of things. The main one being a bit of anger, because let's be for real: He's probably pornsick to be so obsessed over dick size, looking like a 7 foot Gigachad who has sex all day everyday, and thinking these will grant him a girlfriend. Despite the fact that (AND WE'VE ALL SEEN THIS IRL ALL THE TIME LMAO) that many pretty, well put together women are going out with absolute trolls nowadays, and those trolls don't even have much money, personality, or a sense of humor to make up for it.
He doesn't even want to work on his finances. Granted, he is only 19, but is he thinking of at least enrolling into college? Try and put in the necessary work to find a decent paying job? Research which fields interests him and puts the bread on the table so that he can fund for dates? No. He basically just throws in the towel with barely any effort into bettering himself as a man.
I'll bet apples to oranges that this man is punching above his weight, as most men tend to do, and trying to get the attention of the highly desirous women to look at him, to no avail. You mean to tell me he can't find some very short woman to go out with his 5'6 ass? He can't find some low maintenance cool girl who doesn't mind going out on dates to cheap fast chain restaurants and diners? A woman who's more average in looks, who doesn't put into any effort in her own life just as he doesn't put effort into his own?
Psh!
He’s so young!
at 19 he’s given up because he doesn’t want to improve anything about himself? I mean I guess it’s good because he won’t be wasting any one’s time. But I find it concerning that he’s hanging around incel forums.
I hate that we can't just leave it at 'Well fuck him. Let him be a loser. Who cares? He's only ruining his own life by never wanting to grow.' Instead, we still have to carry that worry about how men like this take out their lack of self worth, laziness and self entitlement on women. Why can't they just quietly fuck off?
He gave up on dating because he is pretty much average height and has an average sized penis. Meanwhile, most of us women, give up on dating due to the patriarchy. There are so many untrustworthy men out there. I’m not saying it’s impossible to find a good man, but it is like finding a needle in a haystack. There are many men who are rapists/SA assaulters, abusers, predators, cheaters, pornsick (which goes along with being a cheater in my book), scammers, etc. This is the bare minimum of what women have to worry about during the dating pool. Women also have higher standards than men, which means less fish in the sea as well (that’s a good thing, but it does limit us). I haven’t completely given up on dating, but I’m starting to get there. It’s not because I am petite or my breast size is small. It’s because I have so many traumatic relationships with men that it’s not worth the effort. I genuinely do not recall ever having one genuinely good relationship with a man whether it be platonic or not. If something happens, then it happens. But I’m not going to force or spark something to happen when I know it’s better to focus on me. I feel happier alone anyway. Why would we want to go through abuse again? Why would we want to go through SA again? Why would you want to be scammed again? It’s so risky putting ourselves into the dating pool, yet all this guy has to worry about is that he’s an average sized dude. Cry me a river
Honestly though, this is advice I’d give anyone. Be yourself, be your weird odd self and enjoy life. The rubbish side of this is incel forums.