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They say they hate them all day long and want a more feminine woman but if you say you want a masculine man who is a protector provider type that you're refusing to "man up" for any man ever again my DM's have been dry as the desert.
I think they LOVE masculinas and just want them to pretend to be more feminine. I think it's just another way to gaslight us. They want a mommy mcbangmaid, a housewife who pays all the bills. Feminity doesn't come out unless it's safe to do so and is nurtured. I give up someone help me here. Did I say something wrong?
They want us to be the man of the house but dress pretty and perform femininity, basically.
Its like those dudes who want you to pay for the whole meal, but HE wants to hand the waiter your card, so it looks like he's paying. 🤡
I think they want a strong independent woman to take care of them and pay their way but then they resent her. So it’s like we can’t win. I am getting divorced from my second husband because of this exact reason. After we got married he didn’t want to protect and provide help as he had been doing. So then I started having to do everything and he resented me for it. I kicked him to the curb.  Now that he’s living in his own place again he wants to start helping me again?! He’s going to spend all day today helping me get my new deck built. He straight up told me he likes helping me when he’s not obligated to. Goes to show you marriage has no benefit for women.
no, you didn't and probably never have. once again i will drop my most favorite quote from tiffany madison: "Most men claim to desire driven, independent and confident women. Yet when confronted with such a creature reverence often evolves into resent. For just like women, men need to be needed." they like masculinas when it's the most convenient situation for them. when they reap the most benefit.
Men are not euipped to be balancing or reasonable. They are expansive, you give them a branch they are wired to take the whole tree. This can be good or bad. But many were socialized to take & take as many benefits they can get. So of course most would not forgo a multi-use early grave woman for a feminine woman. They also very much live in the moment. They care about what woman is attractive right now. If they were to be presented with the chance to cheat most wouldn't think "wow my wife was way more attractive when we met than this one". Instead they think "wow she wants me & my wife is old/sick/pregnant/" - you name it. It is all about the max. benefit in the present moment. Very little forethought.
Obviously those relationships with masculine women don't work, they have no future mostly because the woman works until she is unappealing and unattractive from stress and loses her identity in raising children all by herself, then these men become bored and the next round begins.
At least know that you are not missing out.
I have no interest in those men. I’m masculine at work but feminine in my own home and I don’t do anything I don’t like doing. When I bought a new car, I wanted to sell the old tires so I called a male friend of mine and he took care of the whole thing for me and got me the best price. He is currently looking for winter tires for my new car. I just call the men in my life father/brother/friend to do things for me and they always happily do it without wanting anything in return. The most I did was making them coffee. They even order dinner when they come 🤣 I’m happy this way. They can feel masculine and I get whatever I need around the house done without needing a partner.
Men these days want to be courted SO badly. Repulsive
Men don’t know what they want or even where they fit into society today. Assume everything out of their mouth is a lie —even things they think are true.
These are great standards to have, but I think a more FDS approach would be to keep them to yourself. You will know when a man hasn't met them, and then you can block and delete him. But showing your cards so early is not advisable, IME.
Men like different things, but a man to settle down with is one who knows They want to be married and have a family is willing to work on making that happen by maintaining the good will and giving to a relationships. So if 90 percent of guys think a relationships should just serve their purposes, it doesn’t matter, those aren’t guys you want in your DMs. Part of success is weeding these guys out. If there’s only 1 guy you’ll meet in 4 months who you’d be happy with, you don’t want all the other ones messaging you, pretending they are someone they’re not. Most attention is fake. So if most guys think you’re not easy and dont message you, that’s a success. Also anecdotally there is a direct correlation between how much social media a man uses and how narcissistic he is. In my experience the good men use social very lightly to hardly ever.
I think there are some who want a woman who will perform both the traditionally masculine and feminine roles