An interaction I witnessed yesterday.
The boxing gym I go to has two floors, a ground level one, and an underground one. I was attending a class in the underground floor, where the trainer is a woman. There was another class going on upstairs, being coached by two men.
A random guy shows up and asks my boxing trainer about a specific class. She gives him the info, but says that he could have very well asked the other (male) trainers that he saw upstairs. The guy responds that he did indeed run into them, but he was scared of bothering them.
The trainer then confessed that this sort of thing frequently happened to her. Once, a guy showed up downstairs to ask if he could buy boxing gloves. She responded that there was someone (a man) standing behind the counter upstairs. The guy said something along the lines of "Yeah, I know, but I was scared of bothering him".
It seems inoffensive at first glance, but it just proves how men respect other men but believe that they're entitled to a woman's time and effort. They just don't care about wasting our time.
Men are soooo ready and willing to act like any female employee they meet is their personal secretary, assistant and nurse. They even get huffy if you dare to refuse to cater to them.
I work in a university and my office has a glass front and looks into the institute's library. There is a service desk in the middle of the library that is manned by student assistants at all times. "Myname, PhD - Assistant professor" is written very clearly on the glass door to my office. I am the only woman working in that row of offices. You wouldn't believe how many men march into my office (mostly without knocking) and expect me to do something about missing paper in the copy machine, explain to them how the scanner works, tell them where to find a book etc.. It never happens with women, just men. The number grows exponentially when a male student assistant is manning the service desk with dumb excuses like "He looked busy and I didn't want to bother him". And when I tell them I'm not the secretary or librarian and to go to the service desk they have the audacity to act offened because I dare to refuse to do them "that quick favor since they are already here". It never happens to my male colleagues. Just me.
After all said and done men generally think women are to be of service to them. It informs their entitlement. If it were me I'd put up a large sign that says "ask the man upstairs not me". Or "direct all questions to staff upstairs". I'm trying to be less triggered by casual sexism in the daily existence of women but it still irks or angers me to no end.
This admittedly isn't the exact same as what you went through, however this is my personal account of dealing with male audacity over my time and attention. I very briefly worked as a bartender this year for a bit of extra side cash. I've never tried my hand at it and wanted to know what it was like. The men who come in are, to be expected, very misogynistic and disgusting. But one moment I experienced, that I still remember, went something like this:
I walked into the bar station area after I was done cleaning up something nearby, and I wasn't in a good mood because I felt like the managers were piling up a lot of responsibility on me and my coworkers due to shortage and their absolute REFUSAL to hire more workers. This older man, sitting in a small table near the bar, was like, "Hey." and I obviously looked at him and he asked quite loudly what my name was. It was incredibly and extremely random. He was a bit far from me, it was like he wanted me to skip on over there and give him attention. I knew by instinct that he would NEVER rudely ask, nay, demand, for someone's name like that if I had been a man. I snapped at him that I'm busy before going into the bar to do my thing. Perhaps my emotions got the better of me when I snapped at him, but honestly... 🙄
Well, Mr Scrote was not pleased by my refusal to give him my name. We have to wear name tags on our shirts, he could have easily lifted his ass up to come up to the bar and chit chat like a normal person if he wanted to see what my name was. He wanted me to really go out of my way to walk on over to where he was sitting at and perform like a clown for his viewing pleasure. So he got up and walked on over to lecture me at my poor people skills, that all he wanted to know was my name, that I should be ashamed of myself. The rest of my shift felt like shit, honestly.
It's not just ~help~, they are absolutely dying if they don't get our attention on them as well. Men need women more than we need them and it's just sad when you experience it IRL.
Definitely not out pf respect, I do think it’s both, “beta” “cuck” men are intimidated by “chads” and run to women for safety. I also think they have sexist assumptions that women are to be of service.
I just had this type of behavior pointed out to me yesterday. I am on a volunteer team for a non-profit event with two older men and they are constantly asking me and another woman for basic information that we’ve documented or is readily available via web search. My teammate said she knows it’s because they expect women to answer to them and do all the logistics/detail work - men just get to show up and do what they please. Now I can’t unsee it and will have better boundaries to protect my time.
I hope your boxing trainer publicly embarrasses these men going forward. "Ah, ladies! My volunteer has arrived! Come in sir...stand there, on that spot. Now, today we will practice the old one two on a real model. 3 of you can work on him at once..." 😂 Honestly though, how do you find boxing? I am thinking about taking up something so I can feel like I can handle myself if I was ever approached. I'm thinking Muay Thai, Boxing or Krava Maga I think it's called?
I’m a college prof and I’ve had students ask me questions about another MALE prof‘s lectures. When I suggest they ask him as it’s his lecture, they say he’s too intimidating. One even said “he’s too smart.”
I’ve almost noticed the opposite- I’m JUST a woman, so I get ignored in fabor of my male boss, who in turn has to tell the guy to ask ME because I’m the one who does the thing he needs. it’s so frustrating, either way. Men just can’t be normal
I was at the grocery store today doing my side gig shopping, having an coffee-induced anxiety moment so I was distracted calming myself down low-key by the juices refrigerators. Random guy creeps up next to me with his shopping cart and I barely could hear him utter asking me if I knew where the egg muffin sandwiches were. Normally, I am helpful and open but this time I was genuinely distracted and trying to focus on my task, so I responded "what?", turned away and kept staring at my phone order from the guy. Did this grown guy actually think I was going to hold his hand through the entire grocery store finding the ingredients for a mc muffin? Not to mention it's an avg size grocery store... not that hard to find the ingredients for competent adults.
How fucking annoying for her