How tragic they're trying to equate social structure/boundaries to 'living in a fairy tale'. These losers just want complete anarchy and no consequences for their behavior.Manners still exist, they are a thing for a REASON- there's nothing fairy tale about them. IF SOMEONE DOESN'T THINK PROSOCIAL BEHAVIOR IS IMPORTANT AND LIKENS IT TO A FANTASY THEN RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
One of my exes said it was “unrealistic” to expect my partner to not look at other women. Men tell on themselves. Also, if I can resist looking at other men in your presence, it can’t be that hard.
Society: Who does she think she is, a fairy tale princess? How delusional!
People find all sorts of different ways to phrase it, but that sentiment has been around for a long time.
Even way back when I was a little kid trying to get my mom's attention (as all little kids do) when she was with the mom group from my brother's school - one of the other moms would say "what a spoiled little princess!"
Women and girls being trained since young that it's only right to always serve others, we must never try to get anything for ourselves. Not even basic respect. Definitely not attention. How dare you! Asking for anything at all is asking too much! 😝
Yes I have heard this one before. the thing is, I never asked for anything that I would not be willing to do for someone I care about, so felt like gaslighting to be told that I was expecting the “impossible” all stuff I readily was able(and willing, at the time) to provide such as respect and consistency. now I know better than to waste that kind of energy “proving” myself to men who default to not doing the same for someone he is interested in or committed to.
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Their only come back is that you’ll die alone and there’s nothing wrong with a single woman.
I'm okay with dying alone. I was very sick for a while, and I noticed how selfish immediate family would be around me. If I was dying, I don't expect better behavior.
My version of this when asking for basic (fairy tale?) standards like loyalty, kindness, affection and decency from a man has gone something like this:
"No guy is really like that"
"But every guy does that"
"You will never find that"
My response lately has been variations of:
"Then I'm happier alone"
"I would rather wait for a better man than settle for this one then."
"I would happily live my life single in peace than spend it with an abusive, neglectful man.
It's just so sad how men, instead of realizing they'll never get the easy low bar of basic minimum adult necessities as attractive traits able to make them easy marriage material that their grandfathers got and just working on bettering themselves to become more rounded and partners women actually want to be with, will simply argue or find new techniques for negging and trying to lower the bar again. Nope my dudes. This is no longer going to work.
I haven't had "you are living in a fairytale" but have heard some variation. It's essentially another way of saying your standards are too high which I think everyone woman has probably heard millions of times since the dawn of time. Good on you for not putting up with it.
I've heard some variation of this my whole life. But expecting basics like hygiene and manners is expecting decency, not a fairytale.
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Nov 03, 2022
i vote for the female communal living thing. the bad news is women are asshole too. the good news is we're much less asshole than men. hahahah
if basic human decency is a fairy tale, then why the hell shoul we look for a man at all? we all know very well that they are incapable of basic human decendy to women, so better not to waste our time.
I honestly think more ladies would be a lot more cool If it wasn’t for men(patriarchy). Women naturally have more empathy and emotions and all the other things that make humans, human. the structure most men have set up is why women have a disadvantage to finding a suitable partner.
the “human decency is a fairy tale“ belief that a man has, shows that he is not a good man and should not get the attention of a woman. No validation for those guys.
it would be called female level up strategy if the whole idealology eliminated men as an option. So we complain about the bad men here, because most of them are bad. But also spend time sorting and eliminating men from our pool while being open to one if a decent one is an option sometime-and teaching how to recognize them because shitty men emulate good ones all the time. It’s not the same as believing that they are all shit. It’s knowing that most are shit and how to not waste time with those ones.
it would be nice to have a real companion and I think a lot of us are inclined to want that, but mitigating risks is very important for our safety and mental health
I was just looking through some old photos and saw some I took in my mid-twenties in a medieval European city on a solo trip. I remember so clearly feeling like I was in a film. It was autumn and the leaves kept swirling around me, the waiters were charming and attentive and the atmosphere felt in soft focus. I’d recently landed my first proper career job and my first pay check after clearing my credit card was that trip. I made it happen and as I strolled cobbled streets I had one of those moments of absolute clarity that my life was going to be beautiful.
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Hey ladies, new neg just dropped
How tragic they're trying to equate social structure/boundaries to 'living in a fairy tale'. These losers just want complete anarchy and no consequences for their behavior. Manners still exist, they are a thing for a REASON- there's nothing fairy tale about them. IF SOMEONE DOESN'T THINK PROSOCIAL BEHAVIOR IS IMPORTANT AND LIKENS IT TO A FANTASY THEN RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
One of my exes said it was “unrealistic” to expect my partner to not look at other women. Men tell on themselves. Also, if I can resist looking at other men in your presence, it can’t be that hard.
Seems to me this is a tale as old as time 😉
Woman (or girl) wants to be treated with decency.
Society: Who does she think she is, a fairy tale princess? How delusional!
People find all sorts of different ways to phrase it, but that sentiment has been around for a long time.
Even way back when I was a little kid trying to get my mom's attention (as all little kids do) when she was with the mom group from my brother's school - one of the other moms would say "what a spoiled little princess!"
Women and girls being trained since young that it's only right to always serve others, we must never try to get anything for ourselves. Not even basic respect. Definitely not attention. How dare you! Asking for anything at all is asking too much! 😝
Yes I have heard this one before. the thing is, I never asked for anything that I would not be willing to do for someone I care about, so felt like gaslighting to be told that I was expecting the “impossible” all stuff I readily was able(and willing, at the time) to provide such as respect and consistency. now I know better than to waste that kind of energy “proving” myself to men who default to not doing the same for someone he is interested in or committed to.
Their only come back is that you’ll die alone and there’s nothing wrong with a single woman.
My version of this when asking for basic (fairy tale?) standards like loyalty, kindness, affection and decency from a man has gone something like this:
"No guy is really like that"
"But every guy does that"
"You will never find that"
My response lately has been variations of:
"Then I'm happier alone"
"I would rather wait for a better man than settle for this one then."
"I would happily live my life single in peace than spend it with an abusive, neglectful man.
I WIN."
Keep those standards fairy tale high I say. xo
It's just so sad how men, instead of realizing they'll never get the easy low bar of basic minimum adult necessities as attractive traits able to make them easy marriage material that their grandfathers got and just working on bettering themselves to become more rounded and partners women actually want to be with, will simply argue or find new techniques for negging and trying to lower the bar again. Nope my dudes. This is no longer going to work.
I googled this post, and the comments say this is Andrew Tate language. That's all we need to know. Good thing OP dumped these creeps.
I haven't had "you are living in a fairytale" but have heard some variation. It's essentially another way of saying your standards are too high which I think everyone woman has probably heard millions of times since the dawn of time. Good on you for not putting up with it.
I've heard some variation of this my whole life. But expecting basics like hygiene and manners is expecting decency, not a fairytale.
i vote for the female communal living thing. the bad news is women are asshole too. the good news is we're much less asshole than men. hahahah
if basic human decency is a fairy tale, then why the hell shoul we look for a man at all? we all know very well that they are incapable of basic human decendy to women, so better not to waste our time.
better a fairytale than a nightmare. 👑
You read my mind!
Tell me why lvm & lvw always use the phrase "You're living in a fairytale" to describe the bare minimum.
Your partner paying for dates
Your partner providing safety
Gift giving
How come no one ever tells these low values that maybe watching too much porn is ruining their views on intimacy.
I was just looking through some old photos and saw some I took in my mid-twenties in a medieval European city on a solo trip. I remember so clearly feeling like I was in a film. It was autumn and the leaves kept swirling around me, the waiters were charming and attentive and the atmosphere felt in soft focus. I’d recently landed my first proper career job and my first pay check after clearing my credit card was that trip. I made it happen and as I strolled cobbled streets I had one of those moments of absolute clarity that my life was going to be beautiful.
So yes, I am living in a fairy tale. Thank you.
My first boyfriend who was abusive would use this line on me too, and would say I’m asking for too much
Apparently wanting a good partner is now "fairytale". Sounds like they're telling on themselves