Hii
Do they exist ?
For personal and cultural reasons, I don't drink at all. And I want a men that don't too. When I tell people that's my first criteria (it's a minimum criteria, nothing extraordinary), they say to me that I am going to end up alone (boys and girls !!!). I don't know what to do. Do you have any hope on this ?
I personally know only one guy that doesn't do any of those. He has tasted them once and decided it's not for him. No social situation coerces him into consuming any of them.
So......they might be extremely rare, but such men exist.
Of course they exist. For what it's worth, my partner and I do drink occasionally, but we have both cut back severely and he has stopped smoking, because we wanted to tame the negative effects before it's too late. So there's even people who willingly STOP consuming various substances even if they did consume them at some point. I think there's an increased awareness around health in many places. So don't be discouraged and stick to your standards. Wanting someone who is sober all the way is not unreasonable.
My only suggestion would be to find out why they don’t drink - most of the totally sober men I know are 1) religious or 2) addicts who HAD to stop.
Either of both of those might be a dealbreaker for you, so I would just advise you to get the background info.
My LVX didn’t do any of those things but he was a lying, cheating, emotionally abusive and manipulative Fuckwad. Sometimes I think he got “high” off of being such an asshole to everyone! Especially women!
I'm in the same boat as you. Due to religious, health, personal and cultural - as it means, the way I grew up - I don't drink nor smoke, much less do drugs - the current cultural state of normalizing weed makes me nauseous. These things are non-negotiable to me. It's relatively easy to find people from my background - I'm from a kinda religious minority in my country - that don't do any of those things, but I hold certain cultural and political views that are way too leftist for the majority of them, sometimes even radical. At the same time, I'm way too much of a prude for how liberal is the secular sphere. It's complicated.
I'm in a similar situation with the added problem that I also don't date practicing religious guys who seem to make up the majority of men who don't drink, smoke or do drugs.
I'm even a little more relaxed on the drinking. A glass of wine with a nice dinner or a cocktail with friends are fine, as long as it's reserved to special occasions and never escalates. Past or current substance abuse/addiction of any kind (doesn't matter if it was/is alcohol, smoking, other drugs, prescription painkillers or whatever) is a hard dealbreaker for me though and I don't compromise on that.
There are plenty of men who don’t do drugs or smoke, but as for drinking, most men who don’t drink at all are alcoholics. That’s at least what I’ve seen in my life. The occasional drink or cigar aren’t a problem for me, but the drugs would be a deal breaker in my world. Men don’t usually come to moral behavior without not having hit rock bottom before.
I don’t drink either. And I have met men who were willing to drop drinking for me, even without me asking - on their on initiative. Not telling you to drop your standard. But some men are willing to do whatever to be with their dream girl. I haven’t meet a man yet who don’t drink. But as I said, I have met two men who has stopped because they were with me. But of course, when I broke it of with them, they started drinking again 😂
Yes. I'd say not drinking is pretty rare, while the no smoking and no drugs is easier to find. Obviously some religious groups avoid these things. It is possible to find guys that drink very moderately. Also guys with certain medical conditions (e.g. diabetes, epilepsy) tend to avoid these things for health reasons.
My (non-religious) brother actually does none of those things, and I consider him HVM (he's married, sorry!), so they do exist. He says he "doesn't want to do anything that might endanger others or his health".
I'm in the same boat. It's harder since I'm living and studying abroad in a country saturated in drug culture and many people don't blink twice at a middle schooler getting smashed or high in my city, but hopefully after returning home or to moving to a different place entirely it'll be a little easier. I have found female friends who share my lifestyle, although perhaps for different reasons.
The somewhat practicing Muslim guys don't, but they are a minefield to navigate.
They exist. More people are choosing to be sober.
Edited to add that it doesn't mean much anyway. Scrotes still manage to be scrotes from the ones I've met.
...if he isn't doing those three things it may be some other legal substance he's doing. Don't listen to my jaded ass though 😄
Yes, I am currently dating one of them (and he is neither religious nor an addict).
The only ones I've met like that are religious and they're awful to be around. It's funny how the only way men won't rot their body with vices is if they believe in some convoluted metaphysical nonsense.
There are tons of guys who claim to do it socially or not that often or used to do stuff like smoke but claim not to anymore. I used to settle for that but I find people like that are constantly on the verge of tipping into excessive drinking or relapsing into smoking while claiming it's still just social. They don't really have the principles or inner discipline that someone who abstains entirely does, so they aren't really good replacements.