About 90% of all the women I know always have something condescending to say either about you, some other women or even a random lady on the street minding her own business. Why do women do that?
We all go through so many similar situations/experiences with abuse, living in patriarchal society, harrasments yet they indulge in body shamming, moral policing and so on... These women aren't bad people as a whole but they don't seem to grasp the idea of how nasty and degrading it makes them.
I've noticed these things more rampant in exclusive women's group than in mixed social settings with pickmes fighting for the male validation (maybe the focus shifts on men?). Comments like for eg. 'Your hair looks dull, don't you take care of it?' Or 'do you think you're gonna get that hot guy with that face', sounds serious and offputting more than the gaslighting of scrotes LVM we come across on daily basis.
What could be the reason that such a huge mass of women feel and express similar remarks? Insecurity? Social conditioning?
Internalised misogyny?
Women are human. Yes, better socialized humans for the most part and less prone to physical violence, but women are humans, and gossip is a part of human behavior. Yes, internalized misogyny plays a part in what we gossip about but I bet even in matriarchal societies gossip is rampant. “Bitchiness” is not an inherently female trait, it’s a human behavior that has been ascribed female by misogynists who also partake in this behavior.
I invite you to interrogate why you think women are innately bitchy. Men use both gossip + actual violence to assert dominance within male groups, and are far more brutal with each other in general.
Because women as a class lack solidarity.
But I find that I bitch about other women when I don't get along with them as people.
A lot of single young women have huuuge issue with internalized misogyny and will try to rip other women apart because they see them as competition for men around them. Especially, when it comes to looks.
Men also have this, but it's more to do with money and success.
Every time I don't like a woman, I try to be objective and think in term or her actions or character. But i'll never victimize myself just to "understand" a Picke who's trying to destroy my reputation.
Also, I recommend listening a Podcast about Male solidarity.
I feel that society (built for and by men) has such ridiculously high standards for women and other women are taught (by the patriarchy) that women have to be perfect or they're deserving of scorn and shame. It takes a lot of deprogramming to undo all that misogynist brainwashing that is literally everywhere. I still catch myself, just because I disagree with something a woman has said, I can't discount everything good she has also said. Women aren't perfect, no one is. FDS is helping in this respect by showing women that yeah, we have flaws, but HAVE YOU SEEN THE DUMPSTER FIRE THAT IS MEN?!? Helps women refocus on where their criticism should truly go, scrotes and their myriad of deep inadequacies and bullshit.
The irony of you suggesting internalised misogyny without considering your own as you make this grossly over-generalising post. 😂
I don't know. When I was a kid and a teenager, and then at the college, I always had a friend group when we almost never bitched about other women (unless they started it, lol). We had too many interests to talk about. It was only later at worplaces, where I noticed that women can be really mean. Probably because you're forced to spend time with all those strangers you have nothing in common. And it's frustrating. Bitching about other people is an unhealthy coping mechanism.
Either you're hanging out with the wrong crowd or you are the wrong crowd. All of my friendship groups are extremely supportive of each other, and that includes both women and men.
Be a supportive friend yourself and if someone behaves in a Pickme way then disassociate with them. In time you will have surrounded yourself with those who want the best for you.
How many women do you know?
Interesting first post btw. Hmmm.
I've noticed that the biggest pickmes are the most concerned about how "bitchy" other women are, when they're almost always the instigators of this type of behavior. Maybe it's because you're holding women up to unrealistic standards or are projecting your issues, or maybe you stomp boundaries or engage in contemptuous behavior and when other women don't react well you blame them instead of self reflecting. No doubt if men engage in this same behavior it would be overlooked, as if men reserve the right to treat others poorly but you're eager to police women to "earn" that right. I don't know you so it could be anything. But with men being so outright dangerous and exploitative, I'm not sure why women become your targets of contempt.
Aww the incel downvoted my answer. *gasp* How will I survive?!😩🤣
correction Why do pickme's do that. Well because tearing other women down is how men will notice pickme's more. Why do pickme women misreat other women? Simply because they see you as competition and can't stand it when you get more attention. I noticed women take shit from their men all the time but if you make one tiny mistake then they snap at you. Why not raise your voice at the mind child you are with? she won't and it's one of the reason I went quiet on a pickme friend and days later I told her I don't want to be friends with her anymore and blocked her everywhere. I listen to her stories about how her man is treating her for days now and I left her waiting for 2 minutes on the phone because I received some bad news and send a quick text to give my condolence she raised her voice at me like I'm a child while her man is giving her the silent treatment and gaslights her when he's in a bad moon. Well bye, Let's see if you can find another person who will take their time to listen to the crap your man is doing to you.
She won't be missed and this is the last time I talk to pickme's. One pickme comment coming from a woman and she can delete my number and never come near my house again.
To be honest I haven't experienced this since middle school and a bit of highschool so I can't relate. You need new friends.
90%? I definitely have met women who do that and for me too these unpleasant experiences are fresh in my memory, but is it really 90%? Even in industries designed to pitch one woman against another such as modelling, yes, you'll find top notch pickmes and more than elsewhere, but it's still not even close to 90% and you'll find the kindest women too. Either you're in a very toxic place or you're the one projecting onto others. Anyway, bottom line is, even if they're doing that, you cannot stop them. All you can do is work on your reaction, specifically going through steps: - Is there anything useful in this critique?
- If yes, how can I apply it (eg, my hair really does look dull because I need to improve my diet)
- If not, how can I not dwell on this (eg, it looks dull because that's just my hair texture, maybe it's not shiny but the cut is good and I have nice volume that stick straight hair will never have). Use what you can, drop the rest, move on.
People in general are jerks, if you don't shut down crappy behaviour immediately, they take it as a cue to continue. If someone wants to act like a dick? Fine; throw that same attitude back, ideally in front of other people. Humans can live a perfectly fulfilling life by themselves nowadays. Something tells me these women know they’re nasty, it’s just that no one’s told them to STFU yet and think they can walk all over others.
Imma guess their mean moms had something to do with their poor socialization. Crabs in the patriarchy bucket and all that. My mom and sister were so mean, I had a hard time trusting women for a looooong time.
I feel that men and women can be equally cruel, but society does seem to push women towards more passive-aggressive means of conflict, while mean are more up front in their conflict. I prefer the ‘male way’ cause I prefer to know where I stand, good or bad, where the ‘female way’ comes off deceptive and cowardly.
There are a lot of bitchy people on this site too attacking your posts sometimes. I tried to post my story on here and got attacked by jealous femcels who couldn't stand hearing that I got taken out to dinner, because they probably never have and never will. It's all about their own personal insecurities. I can see why people hate this community. It's awful sometimes.
Everyone who disagrees with this post has a 99% chance of being the exact women it's talking about