.png)
I'm tired of seeing so many posts and video clips/reels complaining about and poking fun at how hard it is for women to date over 30. It just piggyback off the msyogynisyic viewpoint that when a woman hits 30 she's expired and the problem.
The posts will show things like all the good guys being married, and act like we didn't give the "nice guys a chance". They'll insist the men that are left are cheaters, sugar daddies, looking for a bang maid/place to stay for free, and broke.
I'm in my upper 20s though and dating in my 20s has actually been awful, for myself and a lot of women my age. Funny how when we are "at our hottest and in our primes" that the scrotes were still awful and didn't put in any more effort than when a woman is in her 30s or older according to those posts.
AGE IS IRRELEVANT. a scrote will always be a scrote no matter how old you are, no matter how "attractive" you are, how thin you are, or how accomplished you are. Ladies you are not the issue - the responsibility we have as women is to work on ourselves, know our worth, and walk away / block and delete the moment he shows lv behavior.
So in response here's a lot of the men I encountered in my 20s:
Flirts with you but clearly is way more into another woman, so he never makes the real effort or just wants to triangulate to make her chase him.
The Virgin Nerd: every college has a few. They're usually the socially awkward, hard-core card/video game bros that cover their laptops and cars with half naked anime girls. They'll act nice and awkward at first, and then be "joking" about their kinks and showing you their handcuffs.
Mr. ALMOST High Value: he's handsome, takes care of himself, did well in school/with his job, is respected by everyone. He seems mature and level headed. He's willing to lend a hand. But.... he's so busy and just isn't available. He could make time and effort but doesn't over and over again. (And years later and he's still single because of this!)
The Forever F Boy: in college he's a frat boy and uses women as objects. He never grows up though and still keeps trying to act like that at 28 years old.
The Sad Boy: he's quiet, shy, and acts sensitive. He tries to get you to trust him. But really he isn't over his ex and or has deep rooted mommy issues.
The Creep: this is the dude that keeps "running into" you way too often. He gathers up info about you and stares a lot before ever saying a word to you. He's really a stalker and knows your out of his league. His goal is to wear you down. These are usually the fugly, overweight, bad hygiene bros.
The Womanizer: tatted, gym rat, protein chugging, extremely red pilled bro. He acts super confident and is super smooth when talking to women. Usually plays an instrument or volunteers with the firemen/emt and will try to woo you with that. Super rapey and pushy to get you into his bed. He will pursue any and every woman.
The Orbiter: he's "just a friend" and is just slowly accumulating knowledge and your trust so he can pounce the moment you're vulnerable.
The Clown: he's the outgoing, weird, bumbling theatrical dude. He'll do stand up comedy, plays with puppets, juggles, or plays a ukulele or another quirky instrument. He thinks he's a social butterfly and liked, but people see him as a weirdo and goofball. He will beg you to give you a chance and trash talk you for swerving him.
Military / Police dudes. All they care about is their training and their jobs. Hard-core and brainwashed. Often think they are entitled to a mommy bang maid to serve them and kiss the ground he walks on.
The Hippie: says he's 420 friendly / or vegan and open minded and chill. But he's pretentious and pushes his stances (on everything) onto you. Often lazy, broke, abusing/addicted to a substance, and a couch surfer.
Richie Rich: super spoiled and bratty mommas boy. Was handed everything in life, has access to more money than he needs or deserves and squanders it. Will neg you and make you feel bad for not being "cultured" enough for him.
Racist Rednecks: act like he's a simple, good ol country boy who loves Jesus and loves to fish/hunt/camp /off road but really wants a woman to give him babies and is also unashamedly a racist. Will let you know immediately and gets mad when you block /report him.
The problem with the dating pool in our 30s is men. Men are single in their late 30s mostly because they are immature committmentphobes and whores (what they accuse us of - projection). Women are single in their 30s because they are burned out from their previous relationships with... also men. Have I mentioned that the problem is men?
Ps. I do concede that the few true family oriented HVM are mostly settled by the time they're 35 (since there's no shortage of amazing women). The problem is, they're still the minority, so it's still rare to meet such a type even in your 20s with the best nesting intentions. This truly comes down to dumb luck for all parties involved.
If a man is 40 and never married, he is a loser (e.g., broke, abusive, creepy, etc.).
If a woman is 40 and never married, she has high standards.
In my observation, people from conservative cultures understand this concept almost intuitively. People from "liberal" cultures have a harder time understanding, because they operate under the delusion that men and women are "equal".
haha, love this list. But geez, it's not great that dating in your 20s is awful. It's truly shit that men are so low value.
Maybe the quality of men has deteriorated. I'm in my 40s and damn, the men I dated in my 20s were absolute winners compared to the scrotes I meet these days. The men I dated in my 30s were mostly pretty awful and now, well, it's difficult to find the words to describe the men left in the dating pool - they are truly, unimaginably, horrendous.
In fact, the 2 men I had long-term relationships with in my 20s are now married and are good fathers and husbands. I can't imagine they will ever be kicked out for cheating or being deadbeats. I don't know what men in their 20s are like now - the ones I meet at work appear to be pretty useless, and your list is pretty damning, so maybe what's happening is the quality of men is worse in general. Porn has a lot to answer for. There was no porn on tap 20 years ago. Porn reflects men's hatred of us, but it also breeds it.
I think that “All the good men are married” notion in our 30s is an illusion. The good men weren’t there in our 20s either, but in our 20s we just have more optimism that we’ll find one someday. By our mid-30s that optimism runs out and we try to find a reason for it. Most women would rather believe that theres’ a plethora of good married men than accept that the amount of good men was minuscule from the start. It’s depressing, so I get it. I do think it’s probably easier to find an available HVM in your 20s than your 30s+, but you never know. Anything can happen.
Don't forget the Stray Dog: lovable and loyal, but also very lost. Has to be kept in check constantly. Doesn't feel like he needs to step up and take responsibility for himself because it's easier to just thrive off other people's sympathy and the support of the better functioning adults around him.
Queens, take this as the compliment it is. Scrotes are getting scared silly seeing how women have realized their worth, which empowers us to make decisions centering ourselves rather than them. Surprise, surprise, this results in fewer women able to be hoodwinked into settling for lvm.
It's what FDS has taught us all along.
You will see in these posts lvm/nvms screeching that "all women want the same top [x%] men" I forget what number they use. These might be hvm, or might not be, more often they embody attributes men themselves are attracted to in men and not what we find appealing.
These reels are a strong sign we are winning. They have become very desperate. Another strong and strange sign will be these same men begging to date us, far >30 "washed up" "has-beens." LOL
Unfortunately, it also ushers in sentiment that younger is "better." We are easier to trick and manipulate, and most of us are pick-mes in our 20s/early 20s. They are BEGGING for us to give in. This tactic is to "scare us" into giving no value scrotes a chance--don't fall for it.
Lmaoo accurate categories
Missed this post by a couple days, but I just encountered a Mr. ALMOST High Value recently and it's almost worse than getting hit with the obvious scrote behaviour lol. It's easy to fall into the "WELL maybe he'll be less ~busy~ soon" thinking - but they never are, because they just find the next thing to fill that time with.
And these types actually usually make a lot of time for their family and friends. They just won't make that time for you (or any woman), for whatever weird reason.
The thing they leave out is that most of the so-called "good" men who are wifed up are also cheaters, sugar-daddies, broke, etc... those women just settled. The "nice guys" we were supposed to "give a chance"? They are too. The fact that women are increasingly refusing to settle has them big mad, and what we're seeing is an extinction burst in response to women no longer putting up with the same shit we always have.
Dating in my 20's was absolutely awful - constantly manipuated by selfish, commitment-phobic scrotes who could take advantage of my young optomism and niavity. Most of the women I know had a similar experience, and it wasn't for lack of being a catch. I did some modelling and was exceptionally hot, which basically made things worse because guys would try harder to manipuate their way into my pants (and breaking my heart without a second thought). I genuinely believed they cared. In my (more enlightened) early 30's now, and men are just as bad. Every man feels so incredibly entitled to sex with low effort, it's astounding. I'm glad that women have smartened up to these pathetic scrotes and have set their standards higher. I think not understanding how to navigate my 20's was partially due to falling for femlib propaganda that said everything should be equal, don't be offended if he won't pay for dates etc. and the idea that I should actually put effort into dating losers when they should have been busy woo'ing me. Ugh! I love blocking and deleting guys who can't adhere to those standards now, although I'm still disgusted at their sense of entitlement.
I am 50 years old and I still haven't become invisible because of "the wall" as promised.
Also, my 30s were the best. I was most popular among men 23-55 when I was 36 than I was at any other point in my life. I didn't want most of them, but they were all into it.
Yup, this list pretty much sums up my encounters with men in my 20s so far (I'm 26 now). Which is also the reason I haven't had a boyfriend yet and honestly, when I look at what's available to me right now, I prefer it that way.
Especially the nice guy trope of "Oh I just like to hang out with you, I'm only platonically interested", yet has an obvious aura of "I WOULD bang you though if you let me". Ew. Then also some hippie dudes and Mr ALMOST High Values sprinkled in between.
I'll stay optimistic and just see what's out there, but at the same time, I'm not purposefully looking for anything. I'll trust my gut feeling and I also just like being on my own. There's no rush for anything for me. First because I still got time, but second, even if I don't meet a guy who's worth my time during the time when I'm still able to have my own children, I don't really care.
Settling for someone you're not attracted to or who has tons of issues and doesn't treat you well defeats the actual purpose of founding a family. If I can't meet the right man for that, then I'm just as happy on my own without children. Our society likes to act like not having children is the biggest tragedy for every woman, but purposefully downplay the tragedy of having children with the wrong man. Also, I hate the stigma around single women owning cats that mainstream media has created. Ever thought why women choose the company of a cute pet over some guy? Of course not. We're all just "too picky" or "no one wanted us", yeah right -.-
I feel like the cat lady trope is the modern witch to society lmao.
F*ck anyone who tries to push the "tHe WaLl" propaganda onto you. I really hate it. My mom had me when she was 40 (I wasn't planned btw) and I was curious and asked her if her doctor back then said anything regarding her age and she said no, they weren't making a fuss about it. ALSO, she was asked about the father's age as well and told me they always ask about the father's age because that plays a really big role regarding the child's development! Hah! "Men can make babies up until their 60s, women have to be careful after 35" my as*. Of course, fertility is highly individual and a complex topic overall, but we all know the artificial panic being made around women who are 35+ who haven't had children yet.
Btw, I really have to say that I'm so grateful for my parents being the way they are, because none of them ever pressured me to find a man or get married asap. Quite the contrary, both of them have always encouraged me to take my time and to just be careful to not settle for the wrong man. Even if I stayed without children they wouldn't judge me, but rather be understanding since having kids really takes a lot of energy and sacrifice out of you and you really don't want to get babytrapped with the wrong man.