An FDS-aligned woman from another forum said (paraphrased):
"Men under 25 are largely trash. Men over 35 are largely trash."
In big cities, you can extend the upper limit to 40.
Another FDSer and I have observed that in the real world, the highest concentration of HVM seems to be in the 25-35 bracket, and for various reasons, the general quality of men declines sharply (as do our chances of finding HVM) outside that bracket. This is her post on the subject:
https://www.thefemaledatingstrategy.com/forum/top-posts-today/struggling-with-a-contradiction
Since FDS is about female dating strategy, we wanted to address the idea that FDS strategy does not seem to emphasize putting enough effort into finding a partner when you are aged 25-35.
Yes, yes, FDS advocates living your best life regardless of whether or not you find an HVM. I don't dispute that--I am in my late 30s and leveling up, as a single woman, as best I can.
What I'm pointing out is before age 25 and after age 35, the number of HVM declines, so focusing your energy stategically on the 25-35 crowd when you are 25-35 may be your best way of finding a baggage-free HVM.
We could potentially alter FDS strategy to better reflect this reality.
Feel free to agree or disagree, as always.
@hamburgerfries, feel free to add to the points I've made or let me know if I've misstated your meaning.
P.S. I know HVM exist at all ages. But the fact is their numbers decline dramatically before age 25 and after age 35.
P.P.S. Yes, I know men are mostly trash at any age. But we're comparing relative concentrations here.
Hi Naya. Thank you for not being offended. I don't think you have misconstrued anything I said. It's a delicate issue to tread upon, because we don't want FDS to sound like one of those Evangelical marriage blogs that make it look as if "coupling" is the ultimate goal in life (I'm still tormented by those blogs and how they made me feel as a single), yet for those women of FDS who don't feel like being single forever, it is hard for me to digest the possibility that HVM are more-or-less needles in a haystack as I get older. However, this is not an easy topic for me. I'm in my early 40s, so if the "25-35" notion is true for HVM, it's not an optimistic scenario for me. I have trouble accepting this, but I'm not offended by it, I'm just bummed.
It's always going to suck for me that a man in my age range will already either have an ex-wife, a deceased wife (though that is the "least bad" scenario, provided he didn't kill her), or children already who may hate me because I'm not their mother, or a string of flings from the past. And yet - if they don't have some sort of history (not that I like that), then I'll wonder if something is wrong with them because "they never could get a woman." UGH.
I’m 40 and date almost exclusively in the 25-35 age range, for this and other reasons. When I began dating I was surprised at the amount of men in that age range who expressed interest in me. In my experience, they’re the ones asking me on proper dates, being polite, well-groomed, and can converse well. Younger men seem to want the hookups, and the older men—if still attractive—tend to have a vendetta against women, and carry all their “trauma” from their old relationships to their new ones.
I can confirm that a lot of guys under 25 often lack the maturity for a serious relationship, which is most likely why I haven't had a boyfriend yet at the age of 26 (almost 27, my birthday is in a few days haha). Granted I'm also picky in terms of attraction as well as overall compatibility, but that's a good thing. So we'll see about the next 10 years.
Men in general are trash, It's ridiculous that women claim older, baby daddies or ugly men are better than the rest. No wisdom and class makes men better than the rest.
I have met a 24 year old who was wise, had class and had a bright future ahead of him. He spoke to me like I am an adult, He didn't taunted because I look like a human doll, I'm petite wear heels to appear higher and I always get treated like a child that needs protection. But this dude was the exception of the norm, My ability to govern myself was acknowledged and my autonomy as my birth right.
Wisdom and class makes my world go around , Just because a dude is old doesn't mean he has wisdom or class.
IMO there are just NOT enough HVM to go around for all the amazing HVW i see day in and day out. In my family and friends, or online. Women on average are just much better people and partners, so instead of worring that I will find that needle in a haystack, I have stopped looking entirely and focuing on how I can make my future amazing with the person who I know will always be there for me....me!
(Hope this wasn't a depressing take)
I think this is fairly on point.
This sounds really "false advice"-y.
"She's wearing autumn colors during, spring, she's definitely cheating,"-esque.
Did you arbitrarily come up with those numbers?
I read a study the other month that said men aged from 20-35 have the lowest levels of empathy that they'll have their entire lives.
Source?