Two posts today made me reflect on my journey and experience to finding FDS. First of all - Thank you to everyone who has worked on this project. It's a light in the dark for lost women including the brainwashed pick me souls. I know I was one of them.
Warning this is long ...so bail now if your short on time.
My journey to FDS was completely unexpected but it was driven by events that made me realize something was terribly wrong with my relationship and my partner. Although in my heart I had known the truth for years. My partner had gone off work for a medical issue. The issue affected his work but he was by no means incapacitated. Although he had promised to help more around the house and take care of the kids, so I could work more while he was off, soon he was gaming all day and doing nothing. Literally nothing - I was working full time, doing all the cooking, cleaning and childcare. Of course he was also watching porn. I was furious but felt held hostage by his medical issue. One day I was using the iPad he'd been using and I noticed some messages coming in on a strange app - Discord. I had never heard of Discord. Clicked on one of the messages and found he'd been messaging all these women through private chats who he'd been gaming with for the last month. From the minute he'd woken up to the last thing before he went to sleep...all while completely ignoring his family and doing nothing. With one of the girls he'd been sexting a lot. She was young, married with a young kid. I couldn't believe this. We'd been through an 'emotional' affair earlier in our relationship when he'd fallen in love with a women at his work (also sex talk) and I thought we'd recovered and he'd changed. I should have gotten out then before we had kids. Stupid pick me! Fuck!
Anyway long story short, this is what led me to FDS by a strange circumstance. I started googling gaming addiction, discord, sexting, cheating with gamers, etc. So that's how I found ChumpLady. Bless her and all the women who posted there with their experience. Eye opening. What I was experiencing was not unusual. It was common! Other people described the exact same BS. Finally in one thread, a women was giving some feedback and she said something sort of cryptic but intriguing...basically you're better than this crap, level up, and read FDS. Of course I had no idea what FDS was either. Why would I need a dating strategy? I'm a middle aged burnt out mom. I'd be happy to never date again at this point. BUT something in that message spoke to me and compelled me to go to the Reddit site and check it out. At first some of the stuff seemed irrelevant (not interested in dating) or out there (what? demanding men pay for dates?), but as I read more and more and then discovered the podcast I saw that the core message made so much sense. I wrote in my journal shortly after ´thank god for FDS'. I'm still on the journey ladies but I'm here and so thankful that I found you.
So what's your FDS discovery story?
I was going to befriend a woman at my university on Reddit and I checked her post history and I saw her asking questions on FDS. I was appalled at first! "These women sound so bitchy and high-maintenance!! What do you mean people can be high or low value, that's so elitist!!! Female incels REEEE!!!"
....But something about it stuck with me in the back of my mind. A few months later, I was doing some serious soul-searching about my LVX and decided to go back and read the handbook. It was like opening my eyes to the missing puzzle piece that made life finally make sense. I dumped LVX the next day and am now flourishing in my personal life. I owe FDS everything for making me see my inherent value and setting my priorities straight!!! 💖🥰💗
Went through limerence. Got my heart battered and my life nearly destroyed by a man who I opened my heart to only for him to discard and ghost me after we knew each other for a year. It all woke me up, though. I can't remember exactly how I found FDS, but I am grateful every day for it. I will never let a man treat me like nothing. I love how this community lifts women up and celebrates us and reminds us of our worth. If a man can't see it and can't love you, let him go. Better yet, decenter men completely. I lost too much from this experience. No man is worth your peace.
My ex fwb introduced it to me. We used to make fun of the forum. (Yikes). I was such a pick me. I was also a sidechick of a narcissist who discarded me in the most cruel possible way. The night he discarded me (he physically abused me & almost killed me) everything changed for me. I started reading FDS with different lens and I realized they were all right. Then I started changing. I blocked many men from my past, including my narcisist ex and my ex fwb who introduced me to FDS. I cannot explain how this community has changed my life in a positive way and finally I understand how men think and work. I will always be forever thankful to this community. It helped me to get through the darkest time of my life
Honestly, scrotes raging about it on reddit. I got curious because anytime they rage on something it means I'm going to agree with it. Left reddit when FDS shut down there.
I think I was browsing reddit and someone linked to the forum saying y'all are crazy and I'm always interested in the outliers of culture because they are usually either way ahead of the curve, and/or offer unique insights that I find valuable. Whether it's what to do or what not to do.
After reading the threads I was just like damn. DAMN. The wit and intelligence of the women on the sub kept me reading and reading. All of this perspective was new to me but everything was clicking. Oh that's why, oh that's why....It all made sense and the cloud was lifted.
Really grateful for this strong, positive female influence in my life. I had none growing up.
I was searching “unemployed boyfriend” on Reddit and found thousands and thousands of women just like me with loser partners and was horrified. FDS was also in the results and reading the handbook broke me free of the pickme matrix and I put the hobosexual back on the streets where he belonged. Thanks FDS.
I think I heard about FDS from the old Gender Critical reddit? At the time it was in a negative context. My first reaction to FDS was the typical "they have some good points but they're so entitled and materialistic!". It took months of reading and ESPECIALLY the podcasts, that made me an avid fan.
I really wish I had FDS when I was a teen! So much I could've learned earlier and had a better head start on life and love.
Got broken up with by an LVM college boyfriend. Moved to a new city after graduation and struggled with dating. I was trying new OLD strategies every few months (fun prompts, 'high maintenance prompts', etc.). Stumbled across FDS on Reddit, and decided to use those strategies in OLD. I read the handbook, leveled up, and never looked back ❤️
After being treated like a doormat 2 times with men I briefly dated. With briefly I mean within a year, that’s where the nice guy act fades and you see who he really is, Men always become colder as the day go by when you say no to sex or nudes.
I got ghosted by one dude, fist he was going quiet after I denied him nudes several times, all of the sudden he has no time and is busy with sports while we used to talk after his training all the time. Another one became more and more annoying and distant when I denied him sex for the third time. The other one was a social butterfly and will start to become an asshole when he wants to meet new women. I wasn’t the only one he became a dick towards. He has done that to previous women online.
I found FDS on Reddit and I wished it was still there. I sworn off dating during that time because I can’t make a man stop mistreating me in the long run. But now I realise that I shouldn’t ask men for love in return because they will love bomb and then leave you behind like trash. In order to guard myself against love bombing or other manipulative nonsense I will not tell them how to behave or what to expect But I observe, and when disrespect is served no matter how light, even if I feel slightly offended or hurt I walk away. I don’t talk to him, I don’t respond to him so that I can’t be manipulated back to him. I‘m going ghost. I leave like a thief in the night. Without a heads up.
Ppl who offend you unintentionally might never do it again but Men who behaved like a total dick know what they did wrong and if they know chances are very high they’ll do it again. I’ve seen it myself.
Its better to regret ghosting a man than regret not ghosting him. I regretted not ghosting the ones who ask for nudes and the ones who disrespected me unprovoked.
I will not grow attached to men, nor will I love them with all my heart. That spot will be for the things that can’t betray me. Love men a little so that it will take a little to get rid of him when he shows his true colours. I don’t want this struggle love nonsense, I don’t want to stick around with the hope he’ll stop. I want to be ruthless and do the big chop.
I was involved with not one, but two, scrotes at the time of my FDS discovery. One was a situationship, while the other was a straight up fwb. I was starting to notice some reoccurring patterns, namely me being disrespected by the men I was involved with. I was looking for a way to reassess and remedy my circumstances. I was thinking I was going to need something radical. I couldn't carry on with these shitty, low effort men in the way I'd tolerated it in my past. Fortunately, a good friend of mine had told me about the benefits of "multidating" previously (although she didn't get it from FDS, she watched other YouTubers who advocated for the concept). Needless to say, I didn't really "get" what multidating was when my friend first mentioned it, but decided to look more into it for myself once the two aforementioned scrotes started to waste my time and screw me over more and more. Hence, I found the FDS podcast episode on maintaining a scrotation. It quickly caught my interest and I have been devouring all things FDS ever since!
It was quite an adventure! I was breadcrumbed by a guy, and after learning what the heck breadcrumbing was, I learned all about the no-contact rule. Most of what I read about that was from relationship gurus who touted it as a strategy to get the guy back- and in the beginning, that was my goal, but over time I realized I didn't want him anymore. I then discovered a men's bodybuilding forum where I got some really good insight into how men actually think. I had no idea that redpilling even existed, and I realized I'd been played by every single man I'd dated. In the beginning, I blamed myself, and started getting into all those stupid "lean into your feminine energy" videos. I also found Anna Bey, who I still think has some nuggets of wisdom (though there are definitely issues there). But then I found FDS, and after reading the handbook, everything made sense.
Your ex is a piece of shit!
I discovered FDS through r/GenderCritical, but at first, I didn't really care about it much. At that point, I vouched not to date men at all, so it wasn't for me.
Then, I met a few radfems who were happily partnered with men and it got me thinking that maybe, just maybe, I could start dating again. So, I did, and although my standards were slightly higher because of my feminist knowledge base (I could recognize psychological abuse and avoid its author), I still ended up with LVMs.
After a heartbreak over one of those, I remembered FDS and reading the blogs and forum posts was a huge psychological help!
I discovered that my ex was not only cheating on me but was also addicted to porn. Like the pickme I used to be, I took him back but couldn't sleep because I was so traumatized. I know he was in the bathroom all the time jerking off looking at porn, and I couldn't get past it. I started trying to find other women to get advice on how to handle this, and I found this amazing post on reddit by a woman who basically said, if you're losing sleep, your life is getting worse and you can't trust him, you don't have to deal with that anymore.. you can walk away and stop caring if he's watching porn. She then referenced this was an important aspect of FDS, which I then found and it changed my life for the better. For some reason it was like a light turned on. I had been trying to fight so hard for the relationship and trying to "fix" him for months, and when I read that it hit me that this guy wasn't my problem. I dumped him once and for all, blocked his number and have been sleeping so good ever since.
I posted my LVM story on the relationships subreddit, and a Queen commented to check out FDS! The rest is history, and I’m so happy to be here. ❤️❤️❤️
ghosting after sex with guy I dated for a month, I was looking for answers and after "he's just not that into you" there was link for FDS subreddit...
Chump Lady - Tracy Schorn is awesome!! I recommend FDS, Chump Lady, The Rules by Fein & Schneider, the Betrayal Trauma Recovery (BTR) Podcast, and Why Does He Do That? by Lundy Bancroft to women all time time. Engaging with this type of content is how to get our minds deprogrammed and to finally grasp how men and this world really operate. It’s a path to total freedom from manipulation and nonsense.
My journey to FDS began ages ago when I used to follow The Rules book series by Fein & Schneider as a young woman. Some years ago, I noticed in a bunch of left-liberal scrotey spaces, men would criticize obviously helpful resources like The Rules, eventually FDS, and even wonderful Chump Lady and Lundy Bancroft for telling it like it is - which had me going “If men hate it, it must be powerful stuff.” Period! Life changing information. More women desperately need these resources, starting in their tweens and teens.