Would you cut him from the roster if he expressed the sentiment "Dating is so hard for men" in front of you?

I love that 80/20 whine. They think 80% of women go after the top 20% of men but the truth is 80%+ women wash their asses so they want the 20% of men that also wash their asses lmao. Depending on the severity of the whine I would roast him, if his heart and mind stays unchanged or if he reacts with anger or more whining, then I am out. My HVM had some silly ideas at first too (like thinking he is immune to dating an abuser and women should be too) but he is easily set straight by facts. He says once you open your eyes to misogyny you see it everywhere. That being said, it is not your job to wake up men who are blind to the patriarchy and in most cases it is not going to work. They are probably just going to annoy you with a fight where they pretend to not understand you and minimize your suffering.

Yes, yes I would literally immediately get up and leave if a guy complains it is so difficult and annoying to date me. If he dislikes dating me so much then he's free to not do it. Goodbye.

It's a privilege and the minute he starts treating it with disdain or any negativity, goodbye.

So he openly admitted he's not worthy of being in the top 20%? Next!

I'd probably pretend to be sympathetic at first. "Aww yeah, dating IS hard for men. You go out all worried about getting rejected by someone you think is hot. Meanwhile women only have to worry about getting murdered or raped." Then give him a fake frown and refuse to say anything else. Block & delete.

One thing I love about my partner is that he acknowledged the inherent imbalance in dating right off the bat. I remember him saying that he is amazed that women still agree to go on dates with men they don't know well, and that he understands women who reject romantic advances because they are just protecting themselves. He knows and accepts that women are the choosers and doesn't complain that men are not chased, not taken on dates or proposed to like so many "modern" woke men do. This is the attitude we want to see from men. I wouldn't want to go out with a man who's bitter about his "market value" and wants to be the prize himself.

Why would you force yourself to enjoy the company of someone who despises your gender? What else does he do besides whining? He expresses entitlement to women’s attraction and probably is going to charm you with a ‘you’re not like other women’ real soon if you keep enduring his nonsense. If he has got nothing going for him despite punishing and rewarding a date (who he should desire, cherish and respect) through comparison to a fantasy of the good or bad or golddigging or humble or whatever woman, leave him to whine for himself.

Maybe he’s insecure, maybe he’s self-pitying, maybe he thinks women owe men. None of these options sound like someone who I’d enjoy having dinner with. I get that sometimes the ick isn’t bad enough to abort immediately but I hope that once you find a man who is compassionate, humble, grasps (social) self-efficacy and has an interest in you as a person, there’ll be a palpable difference and you’ll lose the patience to suffer from someone else’s self-pity ever again.

Yes I would drop a guy if he said a bloody stupid thing like that.

Yeah, I’d cut them off. This is someone who is really immersed in that ideology and they’re never going to shut up about it. It won’t be long before they’re “testing” you on dates by paying with a coupon just to watch your reaction, etc. Men like this hate women.

Yes. Right away. You're with a guy and he's complaining?

Yes. Drop.

I recently dumped a guy for exactly this reason. He wasn’t a straight up MRA, but he was far too committed to men’s issues, male POV (even on issues that mostly impact women!) & was just generally too fucking argumentative in favor of men. Trust me, it gets old fast.

Yes.

You cannot re-educate these guys so just dump them. Any man with some kind of chip on his shoulder won’t work.

A man complaining about Dating being hard is code for "why won't women accept my sexual exploitation and abuse. Nearly all women are socializef to be Pickmes and date broke, ugly, fat lazy men who only take and don't give. Women stay in relationships far longer than they should because they're so brainwashed by patriarchy that being a good woman means tolerating abuse. They try to change men, they take cheaters back, they bend over backwards. They become kinkmeisha's cater to the male gaze and fantasies. Dating already revolves around men's needs and wants and sex only revolves around the male orgasm. So to me it's a red flag if a man claims dating is so hard because there is a line of desperate Pickmesha's vying for NVM validation and attention. I'm not all blaming women for the ways things are, I'm merely pointing out that women are victims of patriarchy and are brainwashed to be desperate to attach themselves to a man because their value in most cultures and society is determined by being attached to a man. So a guy saying dating is hard must really abusive or really refusing to put in less than the bare minimum and resenting the fact that women are waking up his abusive tactics. It's a big red flag if even the Pickmesha's don't want him.

This is akin to a man being more concerned about a gay serial killer who targets men than the relatively numerous serial killers who target women.

This is also akin to a man who says, "But women can abuse men in relationships, too!"

Cry me a river.

If a man said that to me, I would write him off. I am in my late 30s and will not play this game, because I've seen it played again and again and again.

Block and delete.

Any man who whines to a woman about how hard it is to date women is tone deaf at best, at worst he's an incel/red-piller. The way I look at it, I wouldn't go to a job interview and moan about how hard it is to find a job these days. Even if that's true, it's tone deaf and leaves a bad impression. That's how I feel about these men. I've never had a man do this to me but if I did, I wouldn't tolerate it for a second for this exact reason.

A man who says this is just another flavor of the man with sob stories, and men with sob stories are dangerous.

This is not hyperbole. Predators fish for your pity to hook you. Safe men want your admiration and respect, not your pity.

Yes, because that is [ncel rhetoric. Men who say that are completely ignoring all the things women risk in the company of a man, because men are literally the one factor that puts us in danger. Log on to any government / statistical/ journal website and you will see the causes of fatality or injury for a woman (especially while pregnant) are from men. Look further into it, and we risk injury/permanent disability ("teehee choking" aka nonfatal strangulation anywhere from sex to kissing to his random whims), 40% or so more upper body strength even if he is puny compared to other men, death (how many women are murdered by intimate partners), stalking, rape, coercion by deception/infidelity/"men have nEeEds", unwanted pregnancy, putting our children at risk of violence/abuse (men who target single moms to get to their kids), and risking having our pets abused. Not to mention we risk financial abuse, men stealing our possessions to pawn for an addiction, etc. Men are a liability to me unless proven otherwise.

Not that you have to explain this to him, but even to the pickmes out there: imagine you are starving and about to eat a nice bowl of milk chocolate Cadbury mini eggs. There are about 20 mini chocolate eggs, but one is laced with arsenic. Will you blindly dive in and trust them to treat your body well? Or, will you take appropriate vetting measures: possibly look for another batch of eggs, get the eggs tested at an independent lab, or possibly try a different route?

If we continue to use this analogy, imagine being told this plate of chocolate will be all you will ever have to eat, so why don't you give it a chance? Yet, if you do eat a poison egg, it is "huhuhu women chose to eat that egg," and "nobody made you do it."

It's cruel and unfair. But I am sad to say probably 99% of my trauma came from dating/abuse from men, and not being perceived as "good enough" by men. I was vulnerable and naive because i grew up around good men, and kept giving malignant men the benefit of the doubt. I thought most men thought like me. So, it is foolish to say that women have it "easier," when so many men act like it is their birthright to treat us as if they are our "natural predator." 🙄

The fact of the matter is that not every male gets a female. And yes the top tier of men will get the woman because that's what nature designed. Survival of the fittest. Men are supposed to compete with other men for the rights to fuck the female. This is how it is in ALL of nature. The male species fights other males for the rights to impregnate the female. Therefore the stronger genes are proliferated and the weak genes die off.

The problem is that patriarchy turned nature upside down. Now we have all kinds of weak males who have survived, that would have otherwise died off. Now that Patriarchy is slowly being dismantled, these weaker males cannot survive in a competitive environment. They are used to be handed everything easily. They've been handed a job, and a woman and a family and told they were entitled to those things. But now that Patriarchy is being dismantled, laws are being loosened, demoralization is happening, the old structures are being ripped away, so we are slowly reverting back to our natural ways. Women are slowly getting their power back, and males are realizing they are useless.

This is why the incel communities have popped up. These weak males, who were told they were entitled to a woman, wife family and Job and aren't getting it, are losing their minds and going on shooting sprees.

But not every man gets a woman. So yes only the strongest top tier males will get the Women cause that's the way of nature. Survival of the fittest in order to propagate the best possible genes.

I could ask this until I'm blue in the face but what the fuck is wrong with wanting a tall guy?