I hate how normalized it's becoming for women to either move in with their boyfriend or have his kids without getting at least engaged first.
Like girl, if you don't wanna marry him more power to you, but if that's the case, don't put yourself in such a vulnerable position! Now he's got all the benefits of having a wife and you have none of the legal protections.
Like this is becoming so normal for even celebrity women (Perrie Edwards from Little Mix, Halle Bailey, etc.) . Why does no one in their lives love them enough to tell them that this is a seriously bad idea?
They either weren't raised right, or they disregarded the wisdom from older women who warned then to never move in with a man you're not married to, and never get pregnant out of wedlock. I was told these 2 things, and they've saved me a lot of heartache. My husband told me when we were dating and stationed in Korea that we'd live together when we got to Fort Bragg, and I said, "Like hell we'll live together. I'm never moving in with a man and auditioning to be his wife. If you want to marry me, you'd better make up your mind on your own, because I'm not trying out to be anyone's wife." And I meant it. I've had men since I've been divorced come to my apartment, see how nice it is, and suggest moving in with me, and I reply that I'll never live with a man I'm not married to. The next question they ask is how old I am, and then predictably they'll say I'll never find a man who will marry me. I just tell them that I'll be glad to be rich and alone if it keeps me from guys like you. Don't be desperate. Most males hate our guts.
The man doesn't want to marry because he already gets what a husband has for free, and she is afraid she''ll end up alone.
I wish men with the required financial status have to marry or do registered partnership with women before they are allowed to even move in with them, It forces men to be providers instead of having an offspring with a care giver for free. Having children should be a woman's right and a man's privilige.
men hardly do a thing for their children so they don't get to breed for free.
I just saw a vid on tiktok where a man is pressuring his wife to take care of his grand mother, he refused to do it himself because that's a woman's job. So She should stop working to nurture a woman that's not even her problem.
At times I just want to avoid all Men.
Just because celebrities have more money than most of us doesn't mean they didn't come from dysfunctional homes. In fact, most of them have some sort of unorthodox upbringing.
So don't count on them to make healthy relationship decisions.
As far as regular women go, I firmly believe the cultural phenomenon that is the "cool girl" has tricked these women down this path. The last thing most women want to be perceived as is a nag or a prude. So they dont push the marriage thing and they don't protect access to their lady garden.
Celebs and rich women are a little different though. Usually it's better so they can protect their assets.
But for the regular women like us, it's so silly.
Most women I know that do this are with men that promise marriage. So he will say "let's live together to see if we're compatible" and they do that. Then it's "marriage is just a piece of paper" then they have a baby -planned or otherwise and I believe most women assume they'll get engaged and it never happens.
But they're trying to be cool girls and if they bring it up, they risk their men leaving.
Cool girls don't complain or set boundaries.
So they just get strung along and eventually give up.
I lurk the breaking mom subreddit and I saw a post a while back where she proposed to her boyfriend (father of their child) and he said yes, but then he cheated or something (can't remember exactly) because he has no respect for his girlfriend, the mother of his child. This was a couple who lived together and she eventually got pregnant. She said she proposed because she was tired of waiting.
Unless we're celebs are ultra rich, this is such a bad thing to normalize. It only benefits men.
A married person has a LOT of rights that a member of a co-habiting couple doesn't have, particularly in the event of one of you dying. Buying a house or having children with someone you're not married to is crazy IMO. I can only imagine that these people have been brainwashed by the media into believing that "marriage is just a piece of paper" which is completely false. Any forever girlfriend I ever met has always been screwed over. It's also worth pointing out that society doesn't respect forever girlfriends. I've often heard people criticise them behind their backs, calling them "pathetic" and speculating as to why the man hasn't married her yet. Obviously a lot of that criticism has sexist undertones to it, but still, why subject yourself to that when you don't have to?!
Finally. Somebody fuckin said it. Even with female celebs for example....like u dont need to get knocked up...for the love of christ u have everything? Why tamper with that???
Shacking up before marriage/kids outta wedlock make me sick idc who tf u are.
I think for really truly rich women (Perrie, TS living with Joe, etc) it's a different calculation - they may not want to open THEIR assets up to the legal liability of potentially being 'taken' by their husbands in a divorce. Kelsea Ballerini sang about how her ex husband took half her shit in the divorce and there are many many cases of rich women with significant assets getting absolutely screwed by their ex-husbands. Those celebs should have a disclaimer that not marrying is only a strategy for women with SIGNIFICANT assets (I'm talking recording masters, I'm talking companies, I'm talking multiple properties, I'm talking multi millions) to protect. Most ordinary women aren't in that category.
Given the historical context of wedlock and all that went with it, these women probably think that they're participating in a bold act of rebellion against the old order. Sadly however they're just fucking themselves (and their children) over.
I WAS JUST GONNA MAKE A POST ABOUT THIS!!!
Its crazy because u just know the man doesn't view the r ship with any weight
It's especially bizarre in countries like Canada, where women would lose all single preveleges like taxes and be up on a hook should things go south, but won't get any marriage benefits. At least in US you can protect your own finances when not married.