Whether it’s my own bias or from being a feminist, I am very dubious about the whole brainwashing, misogyny and trauma that veterans are exposed to. I know they say ‘your job doesn’t define you’ but I think a lot of jobs do, especially a veteran life style. The veterans I’ve met are very controlling, misogynistic and riddled with traumatic experiences. I’m not saying ALL veterans are this way but it logically makes sense of why they are but also on why it could be dangerous for women to date these men. Or is this just me that thinks this?
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I am suspicious of anyone military, ex military and definitely of anyone who is or was a policeman. DV is high in these professions for a reason.
Veterans as in soldiers... I wouldn't date one again, for all the reasons you stated and a big problem with being drunk.
I want FDS to interview female veterans on their dating life (on duty 😏 and off duty. Maybe I'm just messy lol). I think it would be a great segment! Who knows more about male veterans than their female veterans!
I've met a few veterans that are high value men. However, I agree that the vast majority send up red flags within minutes of meeting them.
They can be dangerous due to the PSTD, be careful. Source: worked with the national guard in a hospital ER.
Edit: This is from my firsthand experience, not some asinine thought concept.
I won't date cops, military, or reformed addicts of any kind. I don't need the risk of complications from these kind of men coming into my life.
Men that go to military are usually deeply troubled, no rules/boundaries of any kind growing up, so they seek the safety of the highly structured environment of army to make every decision for them, remove any accountability for even the most atrocious things, and once they’re out, even if they held some locus of control, that’s long gone now. Plus all the trauma that they often refuse to have treated. Just no.
The only ex veterans that are worth talking to are the ones that have properly transitioned to civilian life and gone to therapy. Even if they have never deployed, therapy is a must because the toxic shit we deal with is a lot.
No cops, no military, no nozzle-nuts (firefighters). Maybe EMS, paramedics I’m sure there are some HV, but from my experience, they’re all pretty power/control hungry, and if they are physically abusive, women have no one to call for help bc they’re all connected and committed to protecting each other.
I got PTSD from a veteran that has never seen war, but acted like he was this hardened, cold hearted vet that won't bend over backwards nonsense ex. I've seen more violence and atrocities of humans just coming from the ghetto than this dude who couldn't make it a month into bootcamp... yet he treated me terribly.
I will never date a current/ex military, cop. It’s a certain kind of man that is drawn to these positions and I strongly believe that misogynist and violent men in an environment full of others like them and few women radicalize exponentially faster than they would radicalize by themselves over time. So picking from that pool in my eyes is picking the worst of the worst. Many end up abusing and killing their partners and children too and you have little to. I protection (especially when it’s a cop).
I have dated a guy on the military and all the baggage of PTSD, non-sense training, not knowing what he does except for “working as a xxx on the USCG”, all friends being from work, moving every 2 years, “no news are good news” etc was enough for never again. And he had the good traits of not being pro trump nor a fan of hunting! Haha
Not directly related to this but I also would never date male teachers! Too many of them are drawn to the profession because they are pedophiles.
This is going to sound elitist and classist, but I'm going to say it.
I am allergic to men who are from socioeconomic classes lower than mine. The vast majority of men who joined the military straight after high school did so because they lacked money or an education that money (and some parental guidance) could have provided. Exceptions exist, of course, but I am referring to the majority.
Military men in the the U.S. are basically shorthand for low-class or lower-middle-class loserdom. As someone who grew up with money and the best educational opportunities money could buy, I feel disgust towards these men. It is not a feeling I can change, and based on the other comments, it is probably not a feeling I should change.
So, unless you want to be tethered to a lower-class man, his lower-class habits, and his lower-class family, I would avoid veterans. Men do not hesitate to sex-, status-, and gold-dig the fuck out of women, so we, as women, should also be discerning about men's socioeconomic backgrounds.
Military, Ex-Military or LEOs are an automatic red flag. They're the worst kind of men and, hilariously enough, they always this look about themselves like they aren't firing on all cylinders and breathe out of their mouths.
Except for my mother, all my maternal aunt and uncles are discharged from the military. They all dealing with physical and mental health issues along with trouble getting help from the VA.
How can you be an ex veteran? Anyway, nope. Vets and cops fall in the same category for me. Can’t do it.