“The Single Woman” Mandy Hale Got Married to Her Toxic Ex Mr. E

thank you for saying this, I came in to point this out. He looks like a homeless bum and that is all I felt like commenting on. My word! ETA I don't understand this one. Her head tilt away from him slightly shows body language of divorced in a short while. I know of Mandy Hale and her stuff is labeled "Christian" so I tend to not read too much into it becuase too much Christian women's empowerment is almost always written by women who are low-key pick-mes. It hard to find any that is not, in fact. Although there are a rare few.

In her book “I’ve never been to Vegas,” she noted that after he cheated on her with some reality tv show star and then that star broke up with him he came to stay at her and his best friend’s house and hadn’t bathed in 10 days and wore a trench coat during that time. 🤢 Then he proceeded to play video games all day. So not surprised at his strange behavior/appearance. She said he was at least better than the guys she met on dating apps in her reflection video. Girl…that’s still not reason to marry him.

Wow, he's embarrassing lol.

Oh, I so agree re: narcissistic manipulation and why/how she reached out to him. I had the same thought that this felt like a cycle of narcissistic abuse. Mandy has outright called him a narcissist in her previous blog posts and books. So she should know he's not going to change. I am just baffled at how quickly this all transpired, and I am VERY concerned at the message this is sending to the millions of women who've followed her work. Hundreds of comments congratulating her, even while knowing the context, and PickMes of course pretending any other woman who points out this is Mr. E are just "miserable" and "bitter." Ummm, no. I'd expect the same scrutiny if a company sold a product that later was found to have toxic ingredients.

She's promoting toxic relationships by trying to romanticize a narcissistic abuse story she told her readers, and I think she's also limiting/hiding comments from women who call her out (and have every right to do so, considering what she's romanticizing on a large platform). But I think she really wanted to be married and have children, and she said in a recent video that the men in the dating world treated her "far worse" than he did...which is SO sad when you think about how she's comparing him to those men just to pretend he's a good one. He's still awful, in my opinion, and the way she writes about it screams pure narcissistic manipulation. At this point, after years of being without him, you would hope she exercises some caution.

I know it's not easy, but it's necessary, and I feel she's done enough healing work where she wouldn't be tempted by a toxic ex...at the very least, even if she did rush into a marriage with a guy, it wouldn't be him. I wish she hadn't shared it on her platform to promote this type of relationship as a love story and I hope she got a prenup. Now pick-me women and single women in general are going to romanticize this and believe getting back together with an ex is a good idea, many of whom don't even know the full context. Since she became successful over the years he might also now have access to her earnings and who knows what he'll be able to control if he baby-traps her. Anyway, it's her life, so I hope she stays safe, but I am just very concerned about the messages this sends to all the women who've read her work.

Agreed. The weird part is she told the story herself and is now misrepresenting it on social media, replying to people like, “My story shows it is possible. Don’t settle for less than the best and love will find YOU and track YOU down.” It is really getting delusional. I am losing a bit of sympathy for her as she writes comments like, “I don’t understand what people’s problem is” when she knows damn well many readers know the nature of the toxic relationship. She is also allowing Pick-Me trash commenters to call single women “bitter and miserable” if they dare to say the marriage seems rushed which many did note. Like…she was single herself not too long ago and she’s already taking on the smugness of a married PickMe woman - saw lots of those in the comments section. Not all married women are like that of course - the ones in happy healthy relationships never act like that because they have nothing to prove.

Yikes ^ imagine thinking you’re superior to single people after spending years profiting off single women who gave you clout and praise for messages you didn’t even believe in and standards you dropped as soon as a toxic man came around.

I'm gonna be real with you; the original comment I was going to make to your thread was that mandy came off to me as the anthesis to justpearlythings or whatever her name was lol idc. Basically same gimmick of pandering to an audience about beliefs you don't even actually hold (in pearl's case, she does misogynistic pro incel/mra ramblings) in order to gain attention and clout but in the opposite direction of pearl where instead of saying women don't deserve voting rights, she was pandering about women needing to have high standards. I didn't go through with posting it though because I realized I didn't know enough about Mandy to make that conclusion and I didn't want to be the type to assume the worst about other women. Now that you're showing these screenshots, however, I'm thinking maybe I was spot on with my initial impression of her lol. If she wasn't bashing single people (and by people, we all know she means women), I may have given her a little bit of benefit of doubt and opted to believe perhaps she made a mistake and fell back into pickme tendencies because practicing being a hvw can be hard sometimes even when we make a good faith effort to. But since she is bashing single women - the same women she built her platform off of, im having a much harder time believing it lol....

That makes total sense, and I normally sympathize with anyone’s story of being in toxic relationship! It definitely can be hard. I had my suspicions because of the way she romanticized the story for her large audience without any concern for how they might take it to mean getting together with a toxic ex. There was no concern for her readers or disclaimer like “But don’t take this story to mean to go back to your toxic ex” or anything like that. It was all about her now being a married woman and romanticization of a man who cheated on her and deliberate omission of the real story replaced by numerology.

With such a large platform that is irresponsible. Now that I think about it I’ve also gotten weird vibes from her on Twitter, as I saw her interact with a fan once who was sharing something about her accomplishment, and she turned it back to herself. So that was odd, but I figured at the time that was just her being accidentally tone-deaf.

But now based on her recent status updates I am lead to believe there’s a lot more to her character that we don’t know, and her motives are suspect. It does give off the feel of, “Ha I am married now, I don’t gotta put on the charade anymore! I don’t care about single women and being single sucks, thank god I never have to be single again, too bad for you suckers” vibes. I know she didn’t phrase it quite that way but that’s how the energy is coming off to me. 😂

Because why encourage and write for single women and profit off them for years if you basically believe being with any man no matter how toxic is better? Which is of course ridiculous because being single (happily or not) >>>> being with a toxic man any day. Anyways, had she not posted all that and processed things privately in their reunion I would think the same way as you did, that she just reverted to being pick-me during a desperate moment (which is true in a sense too, it seems, but she took it way too far by involving other women in this).

Neither will these ^ she is doubling down from the comments calling her out trying to act like being married to a toxic man is superior to being single. She really has no respect for single women or singlehood as I suspected. These years sharing messages to women were IMO just her own self-absorbed way to cope with herself being single but as soon as the toxic man returned she’s willing to throw single women under the bus after making it her whole brand for clout. Gross!

I saw that and thought it was kinda stupid honestly. I get being excited about being married, but my goodness she has practically pole-vaulted into obnoxiousness about it.

Lol, exactly. Not sure why she is using this to promote books. And I know she is hiding comments that expose that this is Mr. E because whenever anyone comments with it the comment suddenly disappears. Comments I saw about the rushed nature of the marriage disappeared too. So her audience thinks (and she is encouraging this claim) that anyone who is exposing the red flags is just unhappy that she’s no longer single. I think that may be the case for a few who were only following for single content, but there are plenty of people who also know the true story and are clocking the red flags accordingly! 🚩

For sure. It is strange to sign books with her married name too because those same books reveal his true nature! Like what?? And why the rush to claim his name? Women are the ones who achieve things and then they are too eager to put a man’s name on it…I think about Simone Biles and how she was so quick to have her husband on her pages and refuses to consider any criticism of him but he doesn’t do the same for her and makes it clear in their interviews she chased him. I think MH always believed marriage no matter who it was with is superior to singlehood even despite her quotes saying otherwise. And I believe had he married her earlier, she would’ve been even more smug a long time ago. She was just waiting for the moment. Glad she exposed her true values so we could see the red flags but hopefully her audience knows better than to go back to their ex.

Lmao! So glad you borrowed them from library! And yes, you are so right - no one should be that condescending to single women about a two week marriage especially when their brand revolves around uplifting happily single women.

Yep it’s definitely Mr. E - she confirmed it in her TikTok about exes coming back and the story about her telling her mom lines up with him as well as the timeline of on and off again for 17 years according to her books/blogs. I had the same thoughts you did - I hope it doesn’t happen but he seems exactly the type to vanish and have an affair like he did with the reality tv show star. I even saw on his Facebook that he flirts with his female friends (and may have done the whole “dancing” love bombing with a few different women looking at his comments section of women saying he did— not surprised, I doubt anything he did with Mandy is especially unique) and he wears a fedora in past pictures — pick up artist vibes!!

His last name is now on most of her social media handles - another incidence of a man getting to latch onto a woman’s past achievements to gain clout.

I was hoping it was some high school sweetheart she reunited with when I first read it because no way did I ever think she was going to ever marry him in 2 weeks no less! She would’ve been better off marrying some random dude than him at this point because he knows exactly how to prey on her and she’s more than willing apparently to take the bait just to say she’s married. The history of their relationship is going to be harder to detox from. But, right now she is a willing participant and actively harming women with her message and acting like marriage on its own is superior to singlehood so…all I can do is generally warn people who buy into her stuff.

Indeed! She knows how narcissists operate. I remember she commented in one of her books that another man she dated Steven she had premarital relations with so even with that she knows she didn’t have to get married but that could def play a role and at this point she is willing to set aside reason to be married and have children is my guess. I don’t think she ever wanted to be single, but since she was she decided to make a brand off it. I feel sad for the women following her message who either have no idea what they’re cheering on or are now going to feel like it’s possible to get together with a toxic ex and be happy if they do know it’s Mr. E. Hopefully everyone gets informed because at the very least it is irresponsible to tell such a romanticized tale on a large platform filled with vulnerable women some of whom are seeking healthy love.

Totally agree. I don't like implying she should be cancelled but her hypocrisy really makes her empowered messages seem weak, at this point.

Yeah FB seems to be filled with those! But I think she has a page filter on to automatically hide comments that say things like Mr. e and such. All pages have an option to put in specific words you can put in to automatically hide comments with those phrases. I don’t think she has that on for Instagram because the comments in there are calling her out big time! See the top post and comments: https://www.instagram.com/p/C7wvI2oxCfd/

She also deleted comments on FB I saw previously expressing concern about the rushed marriage. But it is a relief to see some sanity on IG.

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I’ve been silently observing the Facebook posts and they do seem to have toned down juuuust a little bit in their sanctimonious nature.

I think it’s all pathetic and she would be better served by just being quiet for a little while.

Her mother-in-law is a huge Christian pickme. I cannot help but laugh 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 at seeing all the red flags 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 that you posted. I don't understand how anyone can see these 🚩🚩 for almost two decades and figure that God wants us to accept less than his best.

Christian pickmes are the worst kind of all the pickmes, including libfems. The reason is that Christian pickmes blame a higher power for bad decisions.

At least libfems - though still unhealthy - admit they're (unwise) decisions are theirs alone, as they are usually proud of their decisions.

And I have no idea what age this prophet fantasy came about but it confirms that real "exaggerated feeling of self-importance" at a young age. Smh.

I think also you're right about her wanting to maybe try for children.

Dang! These people are full of themselves. There's a prophecy that this man will change the world?

Where do they live? In a fantasy novel?

The promised one is here! Alert the elves and the dragons!

🤮🤮🤮

After all that she’s still praying for a reconciliation wth?!

Yeah I was shocked by that too! I thought at least she might say something like “I am praying I get through this but I realize what a mistake this was.” Her religious beliefs/importance she places on marriage are apparently are way too strong. I know he preyed on her at a vulnerable time but it is bizarre she refuses to listen to the people who warned her especially since she was the one calling him a narcissist not too long ago. I just wish she hadn’t involved her readers in this and promoted the idea of going back to an ex or shamed single people. An audience of millions - most weren’t fooled but some def were congratulating her/“inspired.” 🤦‍♀️ The single people who never settled are the true powerhouses in this scenario yet she basically shamed them and allowed her readers to shame them when they called it out.

Hopefully she wakes up sooner than later and stops promoting this type of stuff on her platform. Seems to me like he came back at just the vulnerable moment to manipulate after lots of stuff had gone on in her life to make her feel like she needed a partner and she was ready to be married and was willing to settle for less to do so. And she seemed to already have PickMe inclinations and I don’t think she ever really respected being single it was more of a way to pass the time and create her brand so it aligned with these harmful values she already had when her toxic ex came back. This situation reminds me we need to be extra careful when we are feeling vulnerable/willing to settle. She took it too far with the strange marriage updates/acting smug and not putting a disclaimer on her story so readers won’t be harmed. I hope her readers will know this too and that not everyone is fooled.

Off topic but I love your username. I love The Sims.