Alright, I've got one from my screen shot storage from the OGJammies:
"Once you understand that the word 'girlfriend' and 'wife' is synonymous with a service job to men, the more men's behavior makes sense. Most men see wife and girlfriend as a service job, not a partnership, so the more powerful you get, the less of them want to 'hire' you to be of service to them because you're demanding a reciprocity they never intended to give you." (2020)
The “blood in the water” test struck me as really smart because there’s so many guys who’ll make a joke of/taunt you with something that bothers you/you’re afraid of. Say you‘re not afraid of mice, tell him you are, and if he‘s the kind of guy who’ll do that, you’ll be able to see his ploy right away.
“I’m too busy” = “You are not a priority”“If he’s not escalating the romantic relationship, move on.”“A man who is in love with you will take all the steps necessary to get you in his life and keep you there.”“-Men who are serious about you will not leave you uncertain about the state of the relationship.”“-If he was the right one he would have showed you.”
The point is that men will play any position they feel will benefit them in the long run because sex is everything, but it’s also nothing. Read it In a book. But worth putting it here
I actually have quite a few screenshots of comments and the occasional post from FDS I took for myself when I was expecting to not be on Reddit....I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to share them though? I included the user names in my screen shots so I wouldn't want to drag out posts or accounts users may have deleted for security reasons. I could also send them to the mods and have them go through them and see what they want to use for new posts here. 🤔
@Thestralglow6 Of course I could, but I'd also like to give credit where credit is due...though I have no way of knowing who wouldn't mind and who would--this is my dilemma. On any other site or issue I absolutely would not care, but honestly the podcast episode about FDS leaving Reddit (for very good reasons) made me feel super paranoid and protective on behalf of any women who ever posted there! I'll think on it some more.
I don't have any direct quotes, but here's what resonated with me!Leave at the first red flag. Block and delete. Think equity rather than equality. It costs more to exist as a woman, let alone getting ready as a woman on a date. Avoid stingy men. Stinginess is so boring when women have our own money. If he complains about gold digging, he just weeded himself out. Only cheap-asses complain about gold digging. No low effort walk dates, coffee dates... next. If you find yourself in a situation of "giving him the benefit of the doubt," really consider carefully and critically why you are making an excuse for a man so early on. Perhaps there exists a perfectly sound reason to do so, early on. Anecdotally, I haven't experienced this. It's always been, "why didn't I leave back THEN?!" Also consider that by "giving him the benefit of the doubt" that you may be compromising on a standard or boundary of yours. You come first. Never chase a man. If he wanted to, he would. If you are afraid to be single, then you NEED to be single and not date for a while. You are the only person you have to live with for the rest of your life. How well do you know her? Get to know her, she's a Queen. Do Queen shit. Level up. You then get to know yourself, your boundaries, and your standards. They are there for a reason, they are a part of you, and a man who adds to your life won't make you settle for less than what you know you deserve.Women have so much more at risk when it comes to choosing a partner, and specifically when it comes to sex. We are the choosers. Men who complain about this just weeded themselves out. Honestly, men who complain about any of this just weeded themselves out, lol.
How true. One of my favorite lines to a guy who asks why he should take me to kind of place I expect is: "no risk, no reward."
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These are from two entirely separate posts. The second one is from a much longer post I liked so much that I saved the whole thing on my computer. I was raised as a small town "good girl" with a very naive view of men. Posts like the two below were instrumental in my becoming comfortable with benefiting in many ways from the men who'd like to be part of my life. Taken together, these posts capture some of the spirit FDS had when I first discovered it well over a year ago. I'm hoping now that we're free of Reddit we can get back to that original attitude!
I don't remember who the OP was:
There is nothing wrong with using a man as a cash cow.
OP was a mod, u/AverageToHot:
...I've been dating for 4-5 years now pretty consistently, and I've had plenty of free meals and drinks since then.
Choose the Right Target
I'm...in my early-20s and I can get guys my age...to buy me free drinks and meals pretty consistently on dates at mid-high-end places. If I want to experience fine dining (a bill that costs like $200+), I date older men (30+) because they can afford it. I can pretty much get free meals every day if I wanted to and if I schedule correctly. You need to choose men who have a good white collar jobs or they have their own business. I typically date men in the tech or finance field. They have the income to spend money on a date compared to a man who doesn't make much...
You wanna know why HVM rarely make apologies? Because they're not constantly hurting us, ergo they don't need to. If someone is apologizing to you more than actually interacting with you, cut your losses short and move on.Let us be, in this regard, more like them. May our actions speak louder than our words *ever* could. Thank you to the fds queen who wrote it xx
From FLUS, as a reply to someone asking "How to glow up?":
"How to glow up: You are a goddess incarnate. How would a goddess live on earth in the modern era? Do you detest your reflection? Buy a beautiful mirror and gaze upon yourself, speaking sweet nothings. It’s not vain, it’s self care. Make playlists that make you feel powerful, fierce, beautiful. Get physical - yoga is amazing for treating your body like a temple. This also means sensuality - the slip of a satin pillowcase or silky pj pants, the luxury of rubbing beautifully scented lotion into the skin, a splurge on cut flowers or a fancy box of tea and then time dedicated to simply enjoying these treats. "
EDIT: Found one from FDS I saved:
"Love yourself! Fall in love with yourself. You said you look average. Never say that again. You look average according to who! No one else’s opinion on you should even enter your mind. Every day you should be getting up and telling yourself how fine you are and appreciating all of your individual, unique characteristics. How can someone else fall in love with you when you haven’t fallen in love with yourself? Fall in love with your hobbies. It will make your life more fulfilling and it will make you more interesting and well rounded person. Don’t focus on finding the right person, focus on being the right person. That attracts the right kind of elements in the universe. Moving might broaden your prospects, but wherever you go, there you are. If you haven’t worked on yourself, moving will only give you more of a scope of opportunities to be exploited and disappointed."
Unfortunately I didn't save the usernames, only the urls which don't work anymore, so I'm not sure who to give credit to, but thank you to whoever wrote these! They were really inspiring!
Do not try to change men. This isn’t build a b*tch.
No one is coming to save you , don't waste potential and time contemplating delusion!
Alright, I've got one from my screen shot storage from the OGJammies:
"Once you understand that the word 'girlfriend' and 'wife' is synonymous with a service job to men, the more men's behavior makes sense. Most men see wife and girlfriend as a service job, not a partnership, so the more powerful you get, the less of them want to 'hire' you to be of service to them because you're demanding a reciprocity they never intended to give you." (2020)
The “blood in the water” test struck me as really smart because there’s so many guys who’ll make a joke of/taunt you with something that bothers you/you’re afraid of. Say you‘re not afraid of mice, tell him you are, and if he‘s the kind of guy who’ll do that, you’ll be able to see his ploy right away.
“I’m too busy” = “You are not a priority” “If he’s not escalating the romantic relationship, move on.” “A man who is in love with you will take all the steps necessary to get you in his life and keep you there.” “-Men who are serious about you will not leave you uncertain about the state of the relationship.” “-If he was the right one he would have showed you.”
The point is that men will play any position they feel will benefit them in the long run because sex is everything, but it’s also nothing. Read it In a book. But worth putting it here
I actually have quite a few screenshots of comments and the occasional post from FDS I took for myself when I was expecting to not be on Reddit....I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to share them though? I included the user names in my screen shots so I wouldn't want to drag out posts or accounts users may have deleted for security reasons. I could also send them to the mods and have them go through them and see what they want to use for new posts here. 🤔
I don't have any direct quotes, but here's what resonated with me! Leave at the first red flag. Block and delete. Think equity rather than equality. It costs more to exist as a woman, let alone getting ready as a woman on a date. Avoid stingy men. Stinginess is so boring when women have our own money. If he complains about gold digging, he just weeded himself out. Only cheap-asses complain about gold digging. No low effort walk dates, coffee dates... next. If you find yourself in a situation of "giving him the benefit of the doubt," really consider carefully and critically why you are making an excuse for a man so early on. Perhaps there exists a perfectly sound reason to do so, early on. Anecdotally, I haven't experienced this. It's always been, "why didn't I leave back THEN?!" Also consider that by "giving him the benefit of the doubt" that you may be compromising on a standard or boundary of yours. You come first. Never chase a man. If he wanted to, he would. If you are afraid to be single, then you NEED to be single and not date for a while. You are the only person you have to live with for the rest of your life. How well do you know her? Get to know her, she's a Queen. Do Queen shit. Level up. You then get to know yourself, your boundaries, and your standards. They are there for a reason, they are a part of you, and a man who adds to your life won't make you settle for less than what you know you deserve. Women have so much more at risk when it comes to choosing a partner, and specifically when it comes to sex. We are the choosers. Men who complain about this just weeded themselves out. Honestly, men who complain about any of this just weeded themselves out, lol.
People must earn your regard and respect before you care what they think.
‘No investment…no return’ 💁♀️
These are from two entirely separate posts. The second one is from a much longer post I liked so much that I saved the whole thing on my computer. I was raised as a small town "good girl" with a very naive view of men. Posts like the two below were instrumental in my becoming comfortable with benefiting in many ways from the men who'd like to be part of my life. Taken together, these posts capture some of the spirit FDS had when I first discovered it well over a year ago. I'm hoping now that we're free of Reddit we can get back to that original attitude!
I don't remember who the OP was:
There is nothing wrong with using a man as a cash cow.
OP was a mod, u/AverageToHot:
...I've been dating for 4-5 years now pretty consistently, and I've had plenty of free meals and drinks since then.
Choose the Right Target
I'm...in my early-20s and I can get guys my age...to buy me free drinks and meals pretty consistently on dates at mid-high-end places. If I want to experience fine dining (a bill that costs like $200+), I date older men (30+) because they can afford it. I can pretty much get free meals every day if I wanted to and if I schedule correctly. You need to choose men who have a good white collar jobs or they have their own business. I typically date men in the tech or finance field. They have the income to spend money on a date compared to a man who doesn't make much...
Trust your gut, don't give "a chance"
All men are same unless proven otherwise
Match. his. energy. (minus a bit)
If another girl can take your man , Darling , she's doing you a favour
"Women with money have more choices and louder voices."
There's a reason fathers and brothers are so protective. Men don't even trust men
You wanna know why HVM rarely make apologies? Because they're not constantly hurting us, ergo they don't need to. If someone is apologizing to you more than actually interacting with you, cut your losses short and move on. Let us be, in this regard, more like them. May our actions speak louder than our words *ever* could. Thank you to the fds queen who wrote it xx
From FLUS, as a reply to someone asking "How to glow up?":
"How to glow up: You are a goddess incarnate. How would a goddess live on earth in the modern era? Do you detest your reflection? Buy a beautiful mirror and gaze upon yourself, speaking sweet nothings. It’s not vain, it’s self care. Make playlists that make you feel powerful, fierce, beautiful. Get physical - yoga is amazing for treating your body like a temple. This also means sensuality - the slip of a satin pillowcase or silky pj pants, the luxury of rubbing beautifully scented lotion into the skin, a splurge on cut flowers or a fancy box of tea and then time dedicated to simply enjoying these treats. "
EDIT: Found one from FDS I saved:
"Love yourself! Fall in love with yourself. You said you look average. Never say that again. You look average according to who! No one else’s opinion on you should even enter your mind. Every day you should be getting up and telling yourself how fine you are and appreciating all of your individual, unique characteristics. How can someone else fall in love with you when you haven’t fallen in love with yourself? Fall in love with your hobbies. It will make your life more fulfilling and it will make you more interesting and well rounded person. Don’t focus on finding the right person, focus on being the right person. That attracts the right kind of elements in the universe. Moving might broaden your prospects, but wherever you go, there you are. If you haven’t worked on yourself, moving will only give you more of a scope of opportunities to be exploited and disappointed."
Unfortunately I didn't save the usernames, only the urls which don't work anymore, so I'm not sure who to give credit to, but thank you to whoever wrote these! They were really inspiring!
"Strong people don't stay." I keep that in mind, it helps me keep my standards high.