Is a healthy happy relationship possible?

I have 12yrs on you and I'm just hoping to make good female friends at this point & a good vibrator.

Also done with men, even the passable ones get complacent.

I'm a loving person, I love with everything I have & they don't deserve it. I think we just need to focus on ourselves and our own lives, a good support network of like minded women & if a man eventually ticks all the boxes, date with a check list in one hand and an exit in clear view if he starts slipping.

When Princella says female sexuality is fluid, she means in contrast to how men's sexuality is. Men will have sex with literally anyone or anything, but that's not "fluidity". So, she's not making a claim about which sex is more prone to homosexuality, but rather about the nature of our sexuality and how female sexuality is responsive to a myriad of factors that grow, diminish, or alter it (as opposed to how it works for men, which seems quite rigid).

Also, Princella does not say that lesbianism is "the only way out of patriarchy". She said that, once you acknowledge the truth about the nature of men, lesbianism is one choice in how you might move forward. Alternatively, you could keep dating men, but do so recognizing who they truly are and she said don't complain when they consistently fail to display the virtues you are seeking in a relationship since those virtues are traits that exist in females only, not males. (Some men can learn to embody these virtues, but, for men, it takes an extreme amount of effort and self-transcendence, which 99% of men aren't capable of, especially in this current environment that rewards them for remaining base cretins). She is fine with women exercising their heterosexuality but notes IF women are going to choose to keep dating men, at least they could stop making that choice from ignorance). She notes you could also choose to be wholly celibate and re-direct your sexual energy to other passions/ projects or be celibate but masturbate a lot.

She also makes a more important point no one ever seems to pick up on. She argues that we are all indoctrinated by patriarchal influences to think this thing about men being pointless as partners is something we ought to care that much about. In other words, if patriarchy hadn't brainwashed us, being with a guy/ spending our life with a guy would have never even been seen as a project for us to begin with. Of course, we'd make love with the few men allowed near the community, have some sort of relations with them and so on, but we'd be so steeped in the community of other women/ children/ nonhuman animals/ earth, working on projects and meaning-making, etc that sitting around lamenting about how we are devasted we can't find "the one" probably would have been incomprehensible. That is, we are wasting A LOT of energy that could be used on intense, transcendant relationships and projects with other women/ children/ "nature" that could help us reach euphoric/ magical levels of human experience on an invented problem . . . all because we were brainwashed to direct this magical energy toward men or toward lamenting how we can't find a "good man."

I can't help but compare her point to racial indoctrination about obsessing over lighter skin color or more fine hair texture . . . I learned skin bleaching creams are the #1 beauty products consumed in Asian countries (hair weaves the 2nd). African countries and countries in which there are large populations of Asian and/or African-origin populations are the other largest consumers of these products. Some people spend their entire lives obsessing about having ligher skin tones or long hair or straight hair, etc., even if that means screwing up their their totally fine skin or getting cancer, but if history had gone another way and had different philosophies dominated, these types of concerns would have been utterly unthinkable.

It's possible if you date up as much as you can, don't give them any of your vulnerabilities, maintain healthy relationships with your family and friends you knew PRIOR to meeting him, have secret birth control (UNTIL you've decided he's worth having kids with, NOT when HE wants to), and have you own job and money. Make him pay for your stuff. Let him help you with YOUR career. BE his social life if you're thinking marriage, so if he decides to pull funny shit, you can implode him. I'm not joking. YOU need to have the big, red button in your pocket or a relationship with a man will not work. And he needs to know it.

It sounds like a lot, but with most men, they are coming from a war mindset when it comes to women. If he knows you'll break his loyal husband image to EVERYONE if he cheats, and you maintain YOUR image, guess what? Either he won't cheat, or he'll cheat and you'll win socially.

When mine cheated and wouldn't stop drinking and getting violent, I pushed the big, red button in my back pocket.

Things will never be the same for him, and they shouldn't be.

If you aren't in a position to have a man's ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE around your finger, then that man isn't yours.

I'm about to be 48 and was in the Army and have worked in construction since 1995. I can tell you Princella is right about men based on my experiences, but I'm not a lesbian either. I just stick to myself. Women could have children and have communal arrangements where we help each other out with the kids and such, but for me, I don't want to have sex with women. It's just not my thing. No problem with those women who like other women like that, it's just not interesting to me. I spent a lot of time looking for a decent man, and I've literally never met one. The last good man I knew died in 1986, and that my my grandfather. But his two sons were trash as are all of the other males in my family. The odds aren't good for having the great marriage dream partnership, because it's not how males naturally operate. It's funny, because I used to joke with my best friend back 20 years ago when I was getting divorced over abuse, and her husband was addicted to porn and about to get divorced by her, that I believed in non-gay gay marriage where 2 women get married for the financial benefits, have kids with whomever we want to, and the closest the men can live is in the house next door. Seems like I had it about right.

You are only 22, you don't have to figure it out now. Finish your education, get a place to live and a job. Once you have your own money and start doing well, you start meeting people who are also on your level. Nothing like having a circle of friends who are productive members of society to make you feel secure and productive. Once you get to meet all sorts of people and lifestyles, you start to pick and choose what you like and build your own. Don't hyperfocus on marriage, you will make yourself miserable. If you can't live with yourself, you can't live with a man, you'll become codependent and a wreck.

Not with men, that's for sure, you need to have strict Border control when it comes to your boundaries because they'll walk all over it.

You need to demand your rights to be respected constantly, excercise your right to be your own master of your own life and put yourself first because when you don't use your rights you will lose it. They house bound you against your wishes and will never see their own wrong doings until you have enough and pack your bags.

Well, Princella is a female separatist. That's arguably the most radical branch of feminism. It will feel foreign to most women and it's normal to struggle with applying this philosophy to our current lives where female liberation is still far off. Also keep in mind though that nobody has the full and absolute Truth™. I too believe that men as a whole are disappointing and can give us very little. I also believe there are some exceptions to the rule. I am happily partnered, so obviously I believe that. However, I also know that this could change any second, and that relying on a man entirely is building your house on sand. The general principle of FDS says that we live our lives as fully as we can on our own (and with our community) and when a man comes along that is ready to add to that, great. If not, it might feel a little sad sometimes, but overall, your life will still be good. ETA: when it comes to sexuality, I've suspected I might be bisexual all my life but I could never confirm it as I've never met another woman who could have been my girlfriend. To me, it seems that finding a suitable single wlw is not really so easy either, so lesbianism isn't going to "rescue" us. Being comfortable with singleness is the only real "cure".

If it gives you any hope, I've become more and more into woman as I've gotten older. I was straight when younger, but once I learned the truth about men, I've become more open to being with the woman. Still have not done anything with one, but I recognize the beauty, grace, and amazingness that is woman. I believe I was thought to hate woman because of the patriarchy. As I moved out of that mindset, I recognized that what I really want, a deep connection with another person, I could get with a woman.

Ladies. Please go beyond YouTubers like this Princella Clark. I have scant information about her besides the very few mentions here in this group. What she is saying isn't new it's just new to you 😉 If you don't want to be a lesbian, don't. If you want one loving relationship with a woman and screw the men or man of your choice (without him knowing about her because doing so is playing to the male gaze) do that. Or be celibate. You have so many choices.