FDS advises women to wait for sex when they've just started dating a new guy. What about kissing and other forms of physical contact? How long should a woman "wait" for this?
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Unknown member
May 06, 2023
For me, the deadline is when I am absolutely sure that I actually like him. It can take a while. I will no longer even make out with a guy until I'm 110% comfortable that he will not hurt me emotionally. There is no timeframe.
FDS has some good strategies for figuring out whether he might hurt you emotionally, like changing your mind or disagreeing with him about something, telling him a fake insecurity you have to see if he uses it against you, etc.
If he's a shitty kisser, the rest will be even worse. It is possible to be shitty even at pecks.
I also really advocate looking at how much time and money he spends on you, unless he's already extremely rich. PEOPLE KEEP COMMENTING THAT A MAN SPENDING MONEY ON YOU IS SEX WORK. NO, NO IT IS NOT SEX WORK. IT IS A SOLID WAY TO TELL IF HE'S BULLSHIT OR NOT AND MAY BE A SHITTY WAY BUT IS LESS SHITTY AND MORE RELIABLE THAN OTHER METHODS.
When I learned about boundaries I saw a dating tv show that told women not to display cheap behaviour or men will throw you away like a cheap product when they pick up on that. Don’t kiss men, don’t let them touch you until you are in a committed relationship. Don’t kiss on the first date or even the 100th if you are not together. And don’t date a man if he wants to get to know you, date with a purpose such as a man who is willing to marry you in a year.
When I was 15 a scrote in his 30’s approached me and asked if my mother don’t mind him talking to me, I said if you don’t touch me or ask for my phone number you won’t get in trouble. I noticed his mood to died down a little, I used to feel bad for setting people off for displaying boundaries but I never stopped following the rule that if a man is not with you he has no right to touch you.
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May 06, 2023
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Unwanted touching in public can be very dangerous to you as well. If other men see one guy doing it, they'll think it's ok to do it too, in some cultures.
I would make a difference between a kiss on the cheek or (later) a quick peck to say hello and goodbye and long/heavy kissing and making out. The former would be something I'd allow after a few dates if there truly is chemistry, he's respectful about it (and doesn't see it as an invitation to more) and I am into him. The latter I consider lead up to sex, so it has to wait longer, pretty much until I would also consider having sex with him.
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May 06, 2023
Hhhm idk kissing leads to sex. Making out gets the male heated, which will be harder for him to walk away once his D is hard. Also, it might be harder for me too. If I'm allowing a male to even KISS me, that means I am already super into him, because I don't ever let men kiss me. I've got to REALLY like a male to let him kiss me. Then that might make me weak too. I've been celibate for 2 years, and I'm pretty sexually frustrated. I might just jump on a guy that I'm making out with. :/
Depends. Some like to kiss earlier to assess chemistry and whether he will push for sex, others want to wait longer for any sort of physical contact so the hormones have less of a chance to mess with your judgment. I personally like to kiss early to get some of the anticipatory energy out of the way. Also, I like kissing. The real "barrier" is sex to me.
For me, the deadline is when I am absolutely sure that I actually like him. It can take a while. I will no longer even make out with a guy until I'm 110% comfortable that he will not hurt me emotionally. There is no timeframe.
FDS has some good strategies for figuring out whether he might hurt you emotionally, like changing your mind or disagreeing with him about something, telling him a fake insecurity you have to see if he uses it against you, etc.
If he's a shitty kisser, the rest will be even worse. It is possible to be shitty even at pecks.
I also really advocate looking at how much time and money he spends on you, unless he's already extremely rich. PEOPLE KEEP COMMENTING THAT A MAN SPENDING MONEY ON YOU IS SEX WORK. NO, NO IT IS NOT SEX WORK. IT IS A SOLID WAY TO TELL IF HE'S BULLSHIT OR NOT AND MAY BE A SHITTY WAY BUT IS LESS SHITTY AND MORE RELIABLE THAN OTHER METHODS.
When I learned about boundaries I saw a dating tv show that told women not to display cheap behaviour or men will throw you away like a cheap product when they pick up on that. Don’t kiss men, don’t let them touch you until you are in a committed relationship. Don’t kiss on the first date or even the 100th if you are not together. And don’t date a man if he wants to get to know you, date with a purpose such as a man who is willing to marry you in a year.
When I was 15 a scrote in his 30’s approached me and asked if my mother don’t mind him talking to me, I said if you don’t touch me or ask for my phone number you won’t get in trouble. I noticed his mood to died down a little, I used to feel bad for setting people off for displaying boundaries but I never stopped following the rule that if a man is not with you he has no right to touch you.
I would make a difference between a kiss on the cheek or (later) a quick peck to say hello and goodbye and long/heavy kissing and making out. The former would be something I'd allow after a few dates if there truly is chemistry, he's respectful about it (and doesn't see it as an invitation to more) and I am into him. The latter I consider lead up to sex, so it has to wait longer, pretty much until I would also consider having sex with him.
Hhhm idk kissing leads to sex. Making out gets the male heated, which will be harder for him to walk away once his D is hard. Also, it might be harder for me too. If I'm allowing a male to even KISS me, that means I am already super into him, because I don't ever let men kiss me. I've got to REALLY like a male to let him kiss me. Then that might make me weak too. I've been celibate for 2 years, and I'm pretty sexually frustrated. I might just jump on a guy that I'm making out with. :/
Three months. Taking the pace slow will naturally eliminate fuckbois and dusties while giving you time to keep vetting him.
I think a month is fine for a kiss personally but honestly, take your own time
Depends. Some like to kiss earlier to assess chemistry and whether he will push for sex, others want to wait longer for any sort of physical contact so the hormones have less of a chance to mess with your judgment. I personally like to kiss early to get some of the anticipatory energy out of the way. Also, I like kissing. The real "barrier" is sex to me.