I have never been taken on a date before but I have standards in place for the men I choose to date. I really want a man to take me to dinner as a first date and I want him to pay the whole bill. I believe the right guy for me will pay and take me to dinner. I listened to one of the FDS episodes that talked about vetting ahead of time to make sure that he is the kind of guy that will pay for the date but I just don't know how to do that. Do I tell him I want him to pay? Do I assume that he will pay going into the date if he meets my other standards? When the check comes will he offer to pay? Will he expect me to offer to pay?I'm used to seeing women getting shamed left and right out of having this standard so I don't know what a guy who is willing to invest in you acts like.
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No, you don't ask.
You just wait and see his reaction.
Make sure you have an exit plan in place. Don't let him pick you up from your home. He's a stranger. He should not have access to where you live, and you should not be in a vulnerable place like his car where he can kidnap you, and/or not take you home when you ask. Give him a fake Google voice number. Not your real number because of he turns out to be sketchy, he'll have access to you whenever. Even if you block him. Some men won't bring it up till the the check comes. Then they'll ask to be 50/50. If this happens excuse yourself to the restroom. Get an Uber and leave.
Unfortunately it's just a wait and see situation.
Don't offer to pay for yourself, I feel like lots of women do this in hopes of the man saying that he'll pay. But what actually happens is if he's lv he will jump for joy that he found someone to go 50/50 with. And if he's hv he might be put off by that.
I get shamed all the time for having standards, you just learn to live with it. Anyone that shames you for standards are ones that can't meet that standard or are jealous that you have standards and strong boundaries
I think the FDS way is to just assume that he will pay and not bring it up. When the bill comes, you ignore it.
Maybe not FDS-aligned, but when I was a poor student (before FDS existed), I would let the guy know he could treat me to dinner or if he's on a budget we could do something low cost like museum. The guy would always say he'd love to take me to dinner (minus one guy who I never met with). Guys hate outright saying I'm too poor to buy you dinner.
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You can't. Plenty of LVM will lure women by telling them they will pay for dates but will later find excuses not to do so.
I don’t straight up ask, but when doing video calls with men, I ask them what kinda of relationship/ dating style they do. I say, “ what have your recent dates been like? What do you normally do on those dates?” Then follow up with “are you a 50/50 kinda person?” I say it with a sweet non-judgemental tone ( even though I’m hella judging), if I feel like their answers are vague. I feel comfortable asking these questions because a lot of the times guys complain about online dating and their past dating experience, and so I ask these questions a certain way to seem like I'm genuinely curious about their dating experience.
When the bill comes, if he doesn't immediately reach for it, politely excuse yourself to the restroom. When you come back you say something like "All set?" or "Ready to head out?"
I actually have no idea. I have never paid for the bill though. I usually just don't really say anything much but a genuine thank you after they pay. Going to the bathroom close to the end gives him the opportunity to fix the bill. I would take a man not paying to be a show on not interested. Usually by the second date I have gotten flowers too. It just depends on the man 😊
I don't know that you can tell for sure but pay attention to the wording of how they ask you out. If they say "I'd like to take you out on a date" or something similar then it's more likely than say "let's get dinner/lunch" "when are you free for dinner" that kind of thing. If they ask in a way that doesn't imply it's a date where they are paying then I would not bother.
I had a date where the check came and he asked me how would I like us to take care of this, trying to shake me down for money. and I said without hiding my disgust at his question "well you asked me to dinner, so thank you for taking care of it" and he did seem taken aback and embarrassed, I think he deserved that though.
And it is good for your safety, if online dating, to take a ride share and to not use your real name at first.
And definitely do carry enough cash in case you end up in a jam or it's unsafe to not pay. But a lot of men know they look like an ass if they don't pay.